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Sarah Palin Is A Russian Spy

She might be. Nobody knows. She was never vetted by the FBI. She might be indebted to the Alaskan mob for gambling losses. Who knows? Not John McCain.

Apparently, John McCain was in such a snit over the fact that he couldn't get his way and have Joe Lieberman or Tom Ridge on the ticket that he just made a politically expedient pick, and chose an unknown governor from one of the the least populous states in the Union.

"They didn’t seriously consider her until four or five days from the time she was picked, before she was asked, maybe the Thursday or Friday before," said a Republican close to the campaign. "This was really kind of rushed at the end, because John didn’t get what he wanted. He wanted to do Joe or Ridge."

Really... So this person, who will start receiving classified briefings if John McCain is elected, hasn't even been vetted by the FBI? Who knows what damage that might do to our national security? Not John McCain. Talk about a lack of judgment. John McCain has clearly shown his "if I can't get my way, I'm gonna screw everybody" petulence with this pick.

Posted by American Pundit at September 3, 2008 11:53 PM
Comments
Comment #261338

Sarah Palin hit a homerun tonight. It is going to be a fun couple of months.

Posted by: Tom Besly at September 3, 2008 11:59 PM
Comment #261342

If by “hit a homerun”, you mean that she was able to read the speech prepared for her by McCain’s handlers, then OK. But I’d expect that of any politician.

Posted by: American Pundit at September 4, 2008 12:11 AM
Comment #261343

I’m kinda surprised to see a Democrat mocking the stupidity of the kinds of things Democrats say with a blog post like this one. It is a joke, right?

Posted by: Liam at September 4, 2008 12:12 AM
Comment #261345

The speech was a mistake. It read like something written for Bush or Cheney or Rove- divisive, derisive, aggressive. It gave no sense of what she actually thinks. She repeated some lies about her background in an effort to create a narrative, but she’ll get called on it, especially lying about the bridge to nowhere and her particpation as Director for a Ted Stevens 527.

I thought the most interesting moment came after the speech. McCain barely looked at her, and he avoided standing close to her.

Purely subjective observation: McCain does not like what has happened to his campaign, and he does not like Palin. The campaign has turned negative and divisive, and her speech encapsulated the bad vibes. In the back of his head, I think McCain wants to bring a unifying and positive message like Obama, and reach across the aisle. Deep down, he wants to be a statesman, and being a statesman, has always been what he needed to do to win. Now, with the convention, the campaign has spun out of control. It really is a third Bush/Cheney/Rove term that is being pushed by the social fundamentalists and Neocons, and McCain is powerless to stop it.

Unless he dumps Palin and puts his own nominee in the VP slot.

The polls are going to show a huge deficit, double digits in a matter of weeks, and McCain will find himself fronting a campaign for people he doesn’t even like.

Dump Palin, and push his own VP choice through, preferably Lieberman. That would be a true reflection of what McCain wants to represent and the positive he can actually offer to the public.


Posted by: phx8 at September 4, 2008 12:18 AM
Comment #261346

Tom Besly-
She hit a homerun, but the ball did not go out of the park. I found her to be a bit like an obnoxious version of that Sheriff from Fargo. You might be cheering her, but to quote that Sheriff:

Oh, I think I’m going to barf!
Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at September 4, 2008 12:20 AM
Comment #261348

I heard that her speech was written phonetically on the teleprompter so she could read it. Nuclear was written “new clear” so she wouldn’t say nukular. That’s hilarious.

The whole speech was nothing but sarcastic cheap shots at Obama and the Democrats based on stuff only us political junkies are familiar with, that I doubt the average undecided voter would even get. It also included several lies, like the bridge to nowhere, and her past acceptance of earmarks, and the lie that Obama will raise taxes on everyone.

The speech may have energized the base, but I don’t see how it could have won over any moderates.

Posted by: pops mcgee at September 4, 2008 12:22 AM
Comment #261349
If by “hit a homerun”, you mean that she was able to read the speech prepared for her by McCain’s handlers, then OK. But I’d expect that of any politician.

And use a teleprompter. And give the speech in a large outdoor stadi…. oh wait a sec.

Posted by: Rhinehold at September 4, 2008 12:22 AM
Comment #261350

American Pundit, that’s kinda funny because reading speeches other people have written for him is how Obama has made his name. In fact, he ain’t done nothin’ else. Palin at least could talk about some real accomplishments even if Democrats don’t think that small town people matter or can actually accomplish things. As if getting elected Governor isn’t an accomplishment for any woman.

Posted by: Liam at September 4, 2008 12:23 AM
Comment #261353
I heard that her speech was written phonetically on the teleprompter so she could read it.

Which of course it wasn’t. I saw the shots of the words on the prompter…

Just can’t disagree on the issues, had to go that extra mile… I say keep it up.

Posted by: Rhinehold at September 4, 2008 12:28 AM
Comment #261355

Rhinehold,

Nuclear was spelled out phonetically for her because she is an idiot.

Just ask the Wall Street Journal

Posted by: pops mcgee at September 4, 2008 12:33 AM
Comment #261357

pops mcgee,

It was spelled that way it he prepared text, the text that gets sent out to the news media for delivery.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jCp7OSfiZufHyYVeAXRZJe9ptsawD92VL3S80

There is no indication that it was on the teleprompter that way, and the fallacy that it would mean ‘she is an idiot’ is one I think the McCain camp is hoping partisan liberals continue to make…

Posted by: Rhinehold at September 4, 2008 12:44 AM
Comment #261360

Why would it be written that way in the prepared text and not in the teleprompter text, unless she is an idiot that can’t pronounce nu-cle-ar?

Posted by: pops mcgee at September 4, 2008 12:51 AM
Comment #261362

How funny, AP. I had just checked your site to see what you had to say and let you know that you needed to join us. We’ve had a fun few days…. ;) and will no doubt stay that way for a while.
This is all such a joke and a really kind of pitiful effort on their part. Of course, all we heard was a campaign created speech in an environmentally controlled situation. And you’re right, she read a speech that primarily was highlighting McCain with no little part of it being his VietNam capture. I don’t belittle any of that, but it’s getting to be a really tired, old message now. Between that and her snide potshots at Obama, and her datribe on Obama left her little time to talk of her own achievements and qualifications. Or ..maybe they let her do that, then had to fill in.
So….looks like she is going to be the ankle-biter in chief !
MSNBC just noted that (OBSAC) ????(didn’t see in writing and the name wasn’t repeated) was alerted to the fact that she named her son, the date of is deployment to Iraq, and a destination…….which would appear to not be cool and they were acting on that.

Posted by: janedoe at September 4, 2008 12:57 AM
Comment #261364

Operative part of AP’s linked quote above:

John didn’t get what he wanted. He wanted to do Joe or Ridge.”

McCain ‘didn’t get what he wanted’ because he is not the one in control of his own presidential campaign. He is just another puppet for the Neocon/Plutocrats/Imperialists/Christianists/Likudists. Just like Dubya. In a word: McSame

phx8:

Purely subjective observation: McCain does not like what has happened to his campaign, and he does not like Palin. The campaign has turned negative and divisive, and her speech encapsulated the bad vibes. In the back of his head, I think McCain wants to bring a unifying and positive message like Obama, and reach across the aisle. Deep down, he wants to be a statesman, and being a statesman, has always been what he needed to do to win. Now, with the convention, the campaign has spun out of control. It really is a third Bush/Cheney/Rove term that is being pushed by the social fundamentalists and Neocons, and McCain is powerless to stop it.

Only partially agree here. I think deep down all McCain really wants is to become the president, and he knows the only way he can get to hold that title is to let the puppetmasters try to put him there using every trick they can find. If he had truly wanted to be a unifying and positive statesman, he wouldn’t have started flip flopping on so many of his former stances on the issues, nor would he have commenced pandering so much toward the Religious Right.
The way I see it, things really spun out of control for this man years ago. But where I agree with you is that McCain often doesn’t seem to enjoy what he’s become, or the fact that the Neocons/Extremists are in charge and he’s never really going to be the one at the head of the party, and yes, he is indeed totally powerless to stop any of it.

Unless he dumps Palin and puts his own nominee in the VP slot.

He can’t. It’s too late to move to the center and make a go for the independents. The Christian extremists are ecstatic over Palin, and they’re never going to allow him to dump her now without totally abandoning the party for the election. Besides, like I mentioned yesterday, McCain said she was his “soulmate.” Once he used that term on her, he was kind of stuck with her for the duration, don’t you think?

Posted by: Veritas Vincit at September 4, 2008 1:01 AM
Comment #261365

I don’t know and I see that you don’t know either. If it was it was, it if wasn’t it wasn’t. But you don’t know that for sure.

However, having an idyom that makes you say a word differently than other areas of the country does not make one an ‘idiot’.

Does it make one an idiot for saying ‘axe’ instead of ‘ask’?

Please think before aswering that question, think real hard about it.

Posted by: Rhinehold at September 4, 2008 1:01 AM
Comment #261368
even if Democrats don’t think that small town people matter or can actually accomplish things.

I don’t recall anyone saying anything like that. It’s this phony self-martyring that Americans are getting tired of. And if the McCain camp thinks they can win that way, then they’re in for a big surprise come November.

Posted by: American Pundit at September 4, 2008 1:02 AM
Comment #261370
McCain said she was his “soulmate.” Once he used that term on her, he was kind of stuck with her for the duration, don’t you think?

Kinda like Bush and Putin, right? :)

Posted by: American Pundit at September 4, 2008 1:07 AM
Comment #261373
Does it make one an idiot for saying ‘axe’ instead of ‘ask’?

I only know one guy who does that… And he is and idiot. *shrug*

Posted by: American Pundit at September 4, 2008 1:11 AM
Comment #261376

VV,
You may be right. The GOP has turned hard right, even by GOP standards.

A really amusing moment is in store. Tonight, the Republicans thought they’d yuk it up by making fun of community organizers. Obviously, they have no idea whatsoever what community organizers do. Obama will humiliate them for that engaging in that ignorant bit of satire. It’s almost as if Republicans are proud of their ignorance. Can’t wait.

“Unless he dumps Palin and puts his own nominee in the VP slot.”

“He can’t. It’s too late to move to the center and make a go for the independents.”

It might look like that tonight, but give it a week or two. The poll numbers are going to frighten the GOP.

If McCain can’t find some way to move towards the middle, then I will be very worried. The Republicans won’t accept a double digit blowout. They’ll start a war with Iran first.


Posted by: phx8 at September 4, 2008 1:17 AM
Comment #261378

Liam-
No, he made his name by reading his own speeches. He wrote them all himself until the campaign kicked into high gear and that became impractical. He did the Philadelphia speech about race and the speech at the Convention himself.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at September 4, 2008 1:24 AM
Comment #261379

I heard a report that the teleprompter stopped working during Palin’s speech. That she had to turn to her pages, find her place, and pick up from there. I think if that happened to Obama he would um, and um, and um and finally just stand there looking stupid.

Posted by: Liam at September 4, 2008 1:34 AM
Comment #261382

Liam,
Um, Obama was president of the Harvard Law Review, the most prestigious review in the world, and um, graduated magna cum laud, and um, um, writes some of his own speeches, um including the acceptance speech that was watched by, um 38 million people. teh stupid. Der.

Posted by: phx8 at September 4, 2008 1:42 AM
Comment #261385

I would love to run a cash pool via paypal for all you liberals regarding the spread you predict on Palin’s downward spiral after that speech tonight.

I have never seen people more out of touch with America than liberal blog junkie’s.

Virtually every credible news outlet, even the Communist News Network said she did an outstanding job. And she did.

To everyone saying she is an idiot, I can only remind you that tonight’s speech was only the second time in her entire political career that she has used a teleprompter. If the campaign decided that her pronunciation of nuclear was reminiscent of Bush’s bumblings, then they probably put that on there just to remind her, but pronunciation of that particular word has absolutely no relevance on her intelligence or her leadership or speaking ability.

Obama visited all 57 states, you want to talk about a statement that could make one look like a bufoon…

The fact that all you are left with after her speech is “Waaaaaaaaaaaah, I don’t like her, she’s dumb” gives me so much joy.

LOL. Poll numbers going south… you wait and see how wrong you are…

Posted by: Yukon Jake at September 4, 2008 1:49 AM
Comment #261387

Yukon Jack,
It’s not a scientific poll, but the CNN online poll shows 41% thumbs up for Palin’s speech, and 44% thumbs down.

Also, maybe you didn’t know this, but Sarah Palin worked as a tv sportscaster after college, and spent the past few days practicing this speech.

Stupidest line of the night (I don’t have the exact quote), mangled by her bad delivery into a delightfully absurd statement: “Wherever John McCain goes, he is the same man.” You could almost hear the entire convention center stop breathing for a moment as they wondered, ‘what the *** does that mean?’

Posted by: phx8 at September 4, 2008 1:56 AM
Comment #261390

phx8:

It might look like that tonight, but give it a week or two. The poll numbers are going to frighten the GOP.

Hmmm. Could be I suppose — but I it’s still going to be almost impossible for McCain to try to placate the all those rabid extremists though. The GOP really seems to have put themselves between a rock and hard place, what with all the various factions they have to try to hold together.

If McCain can’t find some way to move towards the middle, then I will be very worried. The Republicans won’t accept a double digit blowout. They’ll start a war with Iran first.

Oh, jeeze. You’re probably right — and this is the first time I ever found myself hoping Obama doesn’t embarrass them too much. There really does seem to be no level to which these Cons are unwilling to sink…

Posted by: Veritas Vincit at September 4, 2008 2:13 AM
Comment #261399

>There really does seem to be no level to which these Cons are unwilling to sink…


Posted by: Veritas Vincit at September 4, 2008 02:13 AM

VV,

You and phx8 are both right…they started this stupidity in Iraq just because Cheney/Bush found out it was going to take longer to get ben Ladin than first anticipated…and maybe a little because the invasion had been agreed to by those nice oilmen who designed our energy policy in Cheney’s office??? If it even looks like ‘O’ is going to win, expect some threat to appear on the horizon that can ONLY be answered by Sarah/McPain.

Posted by: Marysdude at September 4, 2008 3:34 AM
Comment #261403

dude,phx8,VV, that is mostly what they know how to throw out, the fear and pity angles. With McCain, we have pity, and with Palin we have fear!
McCain is pitiful and Palin is scary.
I think we’re looking at another round of Bush/Cheney, take two. It is the thing that they know works for them, and we know that this administration is not above anything that will prolong their strangle hold on this country. phx8, you stay close to that little voice you’ve got going for you and keep us informed of any changes… ;)

Posted by: janedoe at September 4, 2008 4:51 AM
Comment #261407

AP

Well, I am pleased that Sarah and Rudy quoted me last night.

Zero.

Obama Zero.

I love it.

What you guys saw last night was the opening salvo by one tough chick.

I wonder if KOS will demand today that her little daughter take an AIDS test after licking her infant brother’s cowlick.

Now That’s something both you and Stephen can run with today, AP…irresponsible cowlick licking.

Admit it: while you were listening, that knot in your stomach got a tad tighter.

As far the Eagle: He is very very pleased.

Posted by: sicilian eagle at September 4, 2008 6:42 AM
Comment #261410

As far as her delivery goes - she did fairly well when talking about herself but when she started talking policy and hurling bad insults at Obama she sounded just plain bad. She was obviously reading from the teleprompter. Bad one-liners delivered stiffly.

She was on a very tight leash - she said nothing about the Iraq war being a task from god, she said nothing about her stance on abortion, she said nothing about gay marriage, she said nothing that someone that entrenched in the misguided religious right stands for. Why? Why was she afraid to be herself? Because she was reading someone else’s words?

I think we just found the one person who would make a worse president than George (worst ever) Bush. Way to go McCain - what a horrible choice. If I were still teaching I would write “Terrible - F” on this choice in red marker.

Posted by: tcsned at September 4, 2008 7:55 AM
Comment #261411

The styrofoam columns are crumbling. Dems are starting to sweat. The Dems now seem to think Palin is too tough.

CNN had a quick discussion amongst the CNN commentators after Governor Palin’s speech. They mentioned Reid’s comment about the speech being “shrill”. The lady commentators seemed offended because this code word is considered sexist to most ladies. None of the CNN men saw the problem but as the men defended the word the lady commentators almost snarled in unison.

Posted by: Tom Besly at September 4, 2008 8:04 AM
Comment #261413

Tom - I don’t know what planet you live on but I did not sense fear. I am not afraid of Plain, nor do I think anyone else in the Democratic Party is. What I am afraid of is that, god help us, she should ever become president. She would make the last 8 years look like competent, well-managed government. I think that very rational fear is the only one circulating through the progressive world this morning.

My wife is a Hillary supporter who was lukewarm on Obama. She was repulsed by what she saw last night. She thought her delivery was bad, her content was bad, and her arguments weak. I can guarantee that at least one Hillary supporter is firmly in the Obama camp and Palin only strengthened her resolve.

Just because you say repeat this fear thing over and over again it doesn’t make it so.

Posted by: tcsned at September 4, 2008 8:21 AM
Comment #261414

First off, we have the better candidates in Obama and Biden. So why all the constant obsession with Ms. Palin. I don’t think it helps our cause to continue to focus on her if we aren’t careful she will begin to pick up sympathy votes. We saw it with Hillary and the way she was disrepected by the corporate media and we still haven’t recovered those votes because some women got mad at how she was treated and decided to punish Barack.

IMO there is little right now that is being posted by either side that isn’t coming across as childish and silly.

I do not think Sarah Palin is experienced or qualified at this point in time. Plus I totally disagree with her politics. Given John McCain’s age and bouts with cancer it scares me to put someone on the ticket that we don’t know anything about. Initially I was concerned about Barack because he does lack experience but over time I have been able to see how intellegent and thoughtful he is. I think that what he lacks in experience he will make up for by hiring experienced people that can help him in making the big decisions. We have nothing yet to tell us that Sarah Palin can do that if she somehow becomes president.

As for her inability to pronounce some words, that is not a sign of stupidity. I frequently write words out phonetically to aid me in remembering how to pronounce words. Sometimes I make up my own way of writing out a word to help me with pronunication. I also sit with the dictionary close by my computer when typing even something like this because sometimes even small words are difficult for me to spell. This is called a learning disability. I would think in this day and age we could recognize that intelligence isn’t measured by areas of weakness in learning but by general overall ability in problem solving and judgement. I AM NOT STUPID. I am retired from a professional job and have a masters degree in education. So why can we not stop the lame comments and stick to discussing seriously whether Ms. Palin is qualified-a discussion of why and why not is IMO appropriate.

One last thing I am from the south and therefore have an accent that much of the country associates with ignorance and stupidity. Just because someone has an accent that means they pronounce a word differently from the rest of the country and needs some visual prompts to help them remember how the rest of the country pronounces the word doesn’t make them incapable of being a good VP or president.

Posted by: Carolina at September 4, 2008 8:25 AM
Comment #261421

I would like to know how it is she is planning to attack corruption in government when the very people who have placed her are among the most corrupt. There were several speeches last night in which the orators were describing the very qualities the party portrays as being a large part of what is wrong in government today. I want to know are they going to alleviate this problem by going after themselves. It seems to me to be at odds with republican nature. Accountability has not exactly been a hallmark of the party for the last eight years. I seem to remember quite a few situations in which they chose to investigate themselves and the end result always seemed to be a self slap on the hand at best.

Posted by: RickIL at September 4, 2008 9:36 AM
Comment #261423

phx8

Purely subjective observation: McCain does not like what has happened to his campaign. It’s turned negative and divisive. In the back of his head, I think McCain wants to bring a unifying and positive message like Obama, and reach across the aisle. It has always been what he needed to do to win. Now, with the convention, the campaign has spun out of control. It really is a third Bush/Cheney/Rove term that is being pushed by the social fundamentalists and Neocons, and McCain is powerless to stop it.

I think you may have made and accurate observation here. I had not thought in that direction until you presented the notion. She did deliver a totally divisive speech. There was nothing there to indicate reaching across the aisles to find solutions. And I think you are correct in that McCain might in his heart like to pursue that avenue of approach. Oh well, too bad for him. He literally has to appease the GOP and follow their lead or pay the price. I think it is becoming increasingly clear how the GOP operates. John McCain is no longer his own man. Like GW he is wearing a choke chain leashed at the hands of GOP power brokers.

Posted by: RickIL at September 4, 2008 9:39 AM
Comment #261424

My take on Sarah the Saviors speech

I first posted this over in the red column but I think it applies equally well over here.

The speech was exactly what I expected coming from a person who was so hastily thrown into the fold and until a few days ago seemed to be largely at odds with McCain and not particularly up to date with the workings of the world. It appealed to the republican base and far religious right who she truly represents. She implied notion of resistance to the status quo, which in reality is what McCain is offering. She talked of change and fighting corruption which in reality means that if she is genuine she will have to go after those who are propping her up. She spoke of the need for more and better jobs and better education but did not offer any indication where these new better jobs would come from. I see this as a contradiction in that it is the status quo that is to blame for our current economic situation. I felt she was more divisive and smug than she was understanding or reaching. There was only one point on which I felt she was genuine. That was when she announced that she would be an advocate of families with special needs children. She still is proclaiming the lie about the bridge to nowhere. Turns out she did indeed accept 223 million dollars in earmarks associated with that bill before she decided to be against it, after she was for it.

The biggest contradiction I see here is her claim to be against all the things that the people who placed her in the VP position represent. I grew up in a very small town, current population about 1000 and dropping as the result of rising energy costs and stagnated wages. I can tell you with confidence that she will appeal to those who are staunchly republican. The majority of farmers and a few of the business people in that little town. She would get their vote regardless of any circumstances. The rest, who make up the majority will vote their pocket books come Nov 4th. I can guarantee you that the greater majority of them do not see the dems as being responsible for the state of this nation nor do they see more of the same as the answer to their crisis.

The speech was not great. It was your standard republican rhetoric with claims of a greater patriotism, will to survive, leaning on strength of faith to deliver us from the results of poor republican policy. Thats right folks, they plan to rescue us from themselves. Nothing new and nothing affirming here. Just the same ‘ol same ‘ol delivered as Rocky says in a prettier and less stodgy package than the usual republican norm.

Posted by: RickIL at September 4, 2008 9:45 AM
Comment #261425

phx 8

If McCain can’t find some way to move towards the middle, then I will be very worried. The Republicans won’t accept a double digit blowout. They’ll start a war with Iran first.

To hell with Iran. I heard on NPR this morning that dead eye Dick Cheney was in Georgia. It sounded to me like he was taking that knee jerk neocon attitude and indirectly threatening to kick some Russian ass if they don’t leave those Georgian borders alone. I think we may be witnessing the set up for a neocon hail mary if the numbers aren’t looking good for their party in a month or so.

Posted by: RickIL at September 4, 2008 9:57 AM
Comment #261428

The only thing about Sarah Palin that worries me are her views and beliefs. Religious fanatics tend not to listen to anybody or any thing because they know their right. I think this time the right wing fools are continuing on the self destructive course they were on in 2006. Insisting all of their candidates are far right.


I also get awful tired of listening to McCain’s Vietnam adventure .Every time I hear about it, it reminds me of John Kerry and the swift-boats. I’m just glad McCain fought over in Vietnam. I hate to think about what would have happened if the Viet-Kong had won.

Posted by: Mike the Cynic at September 4, 2008 10:19 AM
Comment #261430

Yukon Jake said “Virtually every credible news outlet, even the Communist News Network said she did an outstanding job. And she did.”

Does that mean we can put that silly old lie about liberal biased media to rest?

Posted by: j2t2 at September 4, 2008 10:27 AM
Comment #261436

I posted this as a reply to Stephen in the Red Column, but it applies here too, so I’ll repost:

What the GOP delivered last night was mean-spirited sarcasm — red meat for the base — wrapped in the flag, as usual. Was Mr. 9/11 blowing dog whistles? I thought I heard a couple.
Sarah Palin reminds me of the cheerleaders I went to high school with. Your classic Mean Girls: pretty but nasty, and not very intelligent. Guaranteed to never have any real understanding about the world, and lacking in true grace, and sophistication. In other words, not Vice Presidential material.
Where are the Policy Issues in this Convention?
Obviously, they don’t got no stinking Policy Issues — just plenty more of McSame.

As I watched the speeches I found myself wondering again and again, why the hell are these Republicans all so bloody angry? After all, they’re the ones who have royally screwed this country with Bush’s sh*tty policies, lies, and horrible leadership.
Oh, and since when does mocking and tearing down the idea of community service appeal to Christians? I don’t think it does. Not sincere Christians anyway.

As you say Stephen, America wants something more. They want better answers, a new direction, and some relief from all the incompetence and failure, but all the GOP has got to offer is the same old virulent partisanship.

Posted by: Veritas Vincit at September 4, 2008 10:51 AM
Comment #261444

Timmy,
The founder of the Alaksa Indpendence Party said ““the fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government.” Sarah Palin’s husband is a member of the AIP. She attended the convention in 1994, and been in touch with them since.

The AIP is a party which wants to vote on seceding from the union.

Just sayin…

Posted by: phx8 at September 4, 2008 12:19 PM
Comment #261446

American Pundit,

Your article does nothing but speak to the fact that you guys don’t have any ammo left. This stuff just sounds contrived and silly. McCain really wanted Lieberman? Yeah, because we all remember how great Lieberman worked out as Al Gore’s veep! Anyone with eyes could tell that Lieberman and Ridge were red hearings when they were first mentioned.

Phx8 did come up with an interesting line of attack, though:

Obviously, they have no idea whatsoever what community organizers do. Obama will humiliate them for that engaging in that ignorant bit of satire.

None of us have any idea what one of them did. But think about it, Phx8. Omaba’s not stupid enough to try and put self-appointed “organizers” on par with mayors and governors.

Posted by: Republicwin at September 4, 2008 12:29 PM
Comment #261447

The AIP is a party which wants to vote on seceding from the union.
Just sayin…

Since when do Democrats have a problem with that? ;-) you should support Alaska seceding; it would be three less electoral votes for McCain!

Anyway, you’re problem is that she went to a convention? So? Her husband went to this one even though, as you pointed out, he’s not a Republican. You watched this convention so you must agree with the Republicans now, right phx8? Just using your “logic.”

Posted by: Republicwin at September 4, 2008 12:38 PM
Comment #261449

>Anyway, you’re problem is that she went to a convention? So? Her husband went to this one even though, as you pointed out, he’s not a Republican. You watched this convention so you must agree with the Republicans now, right phx8?Just using your “logic”.

Posted by: Republicwin at September 4, 2008 12:38 PM

Rwin,

Similar fare to ‘O’ is an anti-american fanatic because he heard a sermon preached by Rev. Wright? Perhaps she’ll renounce them the way ‘O’ renounced Wright? We’ll see…if she renounces them, she’s renouncing her hubby…oh, well…

Posted by: Marysdude at September 4, 2008 12:53 PM
Comment #261450

Similar fare to ‘O’ is an anti-american fanatic because he heard a sermon preached by Rev. Wright? Perhaps she’ll renounce them the way ‘O’ renounced Wright? We’ll see…if she renounces them, she’s renouncing her hubby…oh, well…

I never mentioned Reverend Wright…

Posted by: Republicwin at September 4, 2008 1:00 PM
Comment #261452

Republicwin,
She’s the Republican nominee for VP. If you’re good with it, no problem. It does make the “Country First” slogan sound a bit off, though.

The vetting continues… An earmark with her handwriting all over it, classic pork. Good luck with that. Her poses won’t hold up well when she faces questions. To date, five days after her surprise nomination, she has yet to be interviewed by the press. Not once. Wow.

Posted by: phx8 at September 4, 2008 1:12 PM
Comment #261458

phx8,
Wow is right! And now McCain is also turning down interviews because he thinks the press is being much too tough with their questions toward his surrogates regarding Palin.
Totally hilarious!

Posted by: Veritas Vincit at September 4, 2008 1:43 PM
Comment #261466

Yeah, next thing he’ll get his laywers out to pull some add or another, or send out an email blast to shut down a talk show because he doesn’t like what the individual was doing (vetting him).

We have enough of that kind of stuff already, don’t need both parties doing it.

Posted by: Rhinehold at September 4, 2008 1:59 PM
Comment #261467

I was gonna vote for McCain, but now I’m horribly worried that Alaska would secede if I do.

After all, McCain’s VP might have gone to a convention or two where people talked about it and she could have heard some subliminal messages at those conventions. They’ve got this mind-control ray that they’ll shoot at her brain. It will activate her secret mission and she’ll convince President McCain to say that Alaska isn’t part of America anymore and that will be the end of the story cuz if the president says something like that it happens.

Posted by: Liam at September 4, 2008 2:10 PM
Comment #261473

“Dump Palin, and push his own VP choice through, preferably Lieberman. That would be a true reflection of what McCain wants to represent and the positive he can actually offer to the public.”
Posted by: phx8 at September 4, 2008 12:18 AM

It is always enjoyable and telling when a liberal says they want to help a republican win. Thanks phx8, but no thanks. Sarah Palin hit a home-run last night, put a spotlight on Obama’s failings and is ready to skewer Joe Biden with her skillful verbal thrusts.

Posted by: Jim M at September 4, 2008 2:25 PM
Comment #261477

Jim M,

You shouda read all the advice us dems got from the repugs when we were down a while back…it tickled US too…

Posted by: Marysdude at September 4, 2008 2:34 PM
Comment #261479
Sarah Palin hit a home-run last night, put a spotlight on Obama’s failings and is ready to skewer Joe Biden with her skillful verbal thrusts.

Actually, I can’t wait for that either, but it seems that all the McCain handlers are keeping her in protective custody somewhere while they spoon feed her the talking points, and spin directions before they set her free.
It’s going to be interesting,too, to see how many times she is let out on anything but a short leash.

Posted by: janedoe at September 4, 2008 2:40 PM
Comment #261483

Jim M, You shouda read all the advice us dems got from the repugs when we were down a while back…it tickled US too…
Posted by: Marysdude at September 4, 2008 02:34 PM

Hey, Marysdude, I did read the advice to dems and wrote some myself. Most of us considered Hillary your best choice in either the first or second slot. I don’t expect any of you to admit it, but I believe that there are a lot of dems wishing they could have a do-over.

Posted by: Jim M at September 4, 2008 2:58 PM
Comment #261490

lol dude !

Have been sitting here watching and listening to comments from the supporters of last night’s soap opera review.
They range from being so impressed by the young daughter licking her hand to make brother’s hair stay down, to how respectful Levi was to Bristol.
I want Sarah to sit down, one on one, to a room full of piranha reporters just like every single other candidate has had to do. If everyone is so frikkin’ impressed with her ability to hold her own, and you want her to be treated equally, but you really don’t, is BULLS**T.
If she is not ready to take on the press now, then when?

Posted by: janedoe at September 4, 2008 3:32 PM
Comment #261491

sorry….didn’t mean to subject you to that twice…..

Posted by: janedoe at September 4, 2008 3:34 PM
Comment #261494

What do we know about Sarah Palin?

She once “joked” with the local librarian about censoring books in the public library.

She vetoed legislation to end hunting wolves from airplanes.

She’s embroiled in an investigation for firing a subordinate who refused to break the law to pursue a private vendetta against a former brother-in-law.

As Governor she’s led the state of Alaska to bring suit to prevent listing the polar bear as an endangered species.

She denies that humans play any part in global warming.

She insists that drilling in ANWR is safe despite scientific evidence that disturbing the permafrost will have disastrous consequences.

She’d deny women and families reproductive rights, including being taught how to prevent pregnancy.

She supports the teaching of religious beliefs, ie: creationism, in public schools.

She believes that our mission in EYE-RACK is part of god’s plan.

She believes that it’s the christian thing to pray for the success of a gas pipeline.

She supported a bridge to nowhere to get elected, then she flip-flopped after she won.

She opposes pork barrel spending, but as mayor of a tiny little berg she hired a lobbying firm to bring home enough pork to start her own sausage factory.

She thinks that community service is something to be ridiculed.

What have I left out?

Posted by: KansasDem at September 4, 2008 3:51 PM
Comment #261498

“Does it make one an idiot for saying ‘axe’ instead of ‘ask’?

Please think before aswering that question, think real hard about it.”

Rhinehold,

Well, let me ask you why it is that the father of a pregnant 17 year old black girl’s unborn child would most likely be referred to as a “baby daddy” and some redneck (by his own description on his Facebook page) deserves the handshake of a presidential candidate?

And, pray tell, just which Democratic candidate for office have you heard say “axe” rather than ask?

Posted by: KansasDem at September 4, 2008 4:06 PM
Comment #261500

KansasDem, good list despite your attempt to nuance the position. You and others should know that good writers, even atheists, capitalize God and references to Him. Ever read the NY Times? It’s just called respect and civility for the views of others, even those with whom you disagree.

Posted by: Jim M at September 4, 2008 4:15 PM
Comment #261501

Being half Irish and a visitor to Ireland I can tell you that “axe” is in regular use in that enchanted land.

Posted by: Jim M at September 4, 2008 4:19 PM
Comment #261503

Of course, if Palin were a Democrat, the GOP’s attacks would be quick, brutal, and dismissive, and they wouldn’t accept any complains of sexism.

In fact, they already did that.

Posted by: LawnBoy at September 4, 2008 4:20 PM
Comment #261505
You and others should know that good writers, even atheists, capitalize God and references to Him.

No, I never capitalize god, because the gives reverence to something that I don’t believe exists. If I believed in god, I would most likely capitalized it, if it was the god I believed in…

That is the difference, little g for a god, capital G for ‘the god’, meaning the one you believe in…

Or, if you are afraid of offending someone. Which I think we can all agree I’m not.

Posted by: Rhinehold at September 4, 2008 4:22 PM
Comment #261506

Hey KD, once again, it’s good to see you!
Just the fact that you’ve come back to post says that you haven’t completely given up on things.

Well, let me ask you why it is that the father of a pregnant 17 year old black girl’s unborn child would most likely be referred to as a “baby daddy” and some redneck (by his own description on his Facebook page) deserves the handshake of a presidential candidate?

Okay, am I missing..or adding something to that comment? “black girl’s unborn child”. ????? Are you trying to tell us something? Is Bristol not his only playground?

Posted by: janedoe at September 4, 2008 4:23 PM
Comment #261508

Kansas dem

What have I left out?

She did accept the 223 million dollars in ear marks attached to that bridge to nowhere deal.

Posted by: RickIL at September 4, 2008 4:26 PM
Comment #261509

Jim M,
You’re saying that Ebonics is a part now of the Irish culture?? Interesting..

Posted by: janedoe at September 4, 2008 4:28 PM
Comment #261511

LawnBoy,

I have to say I have always loved John Stewart.

Rove, O’Reiley and Morris are, as John said, lying sacks of **** and proves that hypocrisy knows no bounds.

Posted by: Rhinehold at September 4, 2008 4:33 PM
Comment #261513

Kansas

She also vowed to tackle corruption which near as I can tell pretty much means she is going to have to take down those who placed her and who she will also be working for.

Posted by: RickIL at September 4, 2008 4:35 PM
Comment #261516

Lawn boy

Good stuff. I had to shut off the last few minutes of Palin last night to watch. Glad you posted this.

Posted by: RickIL at September 4, 2008 4:44 PM
Comment #261524

Why do Republicans compare Palin’s time as mayor to Obama working as a community organizer, shouldn’t they be comparing it to his time as a state senator? Also, why is working as a community organizer something worth mocking to Republicans?

Here is the comparison:

Obama graduated from Columbia with a degree in political science specializing in international relations while she graduated from Idaho with a degree in journalism.

Obama went to work as a community organizer while she worked as a local sports anchor.

Obama was editor of the Harvard law review while she was a member of the PTA.

Obama was a professor of constitutional law at the University of Chicago and wrote his first book while she was a member of the Wasilla town council.

Obama was a state senator of a district of more than 200,000 people while she was mayor of a town of less than 6,000.

Obama has been a Senator of a state of 12.8 million people, and has worked on both domestic and foreign policy legislation and orchestrated one of the biggest primary campaigns in US history, while she has been governor of the 4th least populated state for only 20 months.

So if Republicans want to bring up Obama working as a community organizer they should be comparing it to what Palin was doing at the same point in her career, which was a local sports anchor.

Posted by: pops mcgee at September 4, 2008 4:58 PM
Comment #261531

I don’t particularly like that Alaskans own their oil. We should own that oil, so that we can sell Alaska to the highest bidder. It’s mostly empty. Remember Murkowski or Stevens holding up a blank white piece of paper in the senate to show what ANWR looks like most of the time?

Posted by: ohrealy at September 4, 2008 5:24 PM
Comment #261544

“Jim M, You’re saying that Ebonics is a part now of the Irish culture?? Interesting..”
Posted by: janedoe at September 4, 2008 04:28 PM

janedoe, perhaps you should get out and travel to find more of your beliefs challenged. Google the “Irish Tenors” and listen to some songs and you’ll understand what I mean.

Rhinehold says, “No, I never capitalize god, because the gives reverence to something that I don’t believe exists. If I believed in god, I would most likely capitalized it, if it was the god I believed in…”

Gosh, what a maverick you are Rhinehold. Good writing form, convention, and common courtesy be damned. Should I not capitalize your name out of irreverence? Nah, I think not as I do respect you and your personal beliefs.

Posted by: Jim M at September 4, 2008 6:29 PM
Comment #261551

Jim M,

And I respect yours. I just don’t respect god, since he doesn’t exist.

But let’s go further. Do you make sure to capitalize all of the other deities on the planet, or just that one?

Posted by: Rhinehold at September 4, 2008 7:06 PM
Comment #261569

“Hey KD, once again, it’s good to see you!
Just the fact that you’ve come back to post says that you haven’t completely given up on things.”

janedoe,

I’ve tried to post twice since you last welcomed me back and I ended up in some “pending” hell!

And I never saw my messages end up here!

Why bother if you’re being blocked?

Posted by: KansasDem at September 4, 2008 7:54 PM
Comment #261583

Lawnboy, I loved that Daily Show segment.

Awesome post, Pops Mcgee! I was thinking something very similar last night, and I’m glad you could articulate it all so well.

Posted by: Veritas Vincit at September 4, 2008 8:54 PM
Comment #261584

Kansas Dem, I liked your post too.
And I’ve got one to add:

Palin didn’t just fire that one guy in the Troopergate incident, it seems she’s got a very long history of firing all kinds of people at the drop of a hat. Basically anyone who doesn’t agree with her positions or ideas has risked a firing. Naturally, she’s made a ton of enemies in Alaska as a result.

To me this woman sounds as temperamentally unstable as McCain — maybe that’s why she’s his “soulmate.”

Posted by: Veritas Vincit at September 4, 2008 9:04 PM
Comment #261586

Here is the comparison:
Obama graduated from Columbia with a degree in political science specializing in international relations while she graduated from Idaho with a degree in journalism.
Obama went to work as a community organizer while she worked as a local sports anchor.
Obama was editor of the Harvard law review while she was a member of the PTA.
Obama was a professor of constitutional law at the University of Chicago and wrote his first book while she was a member of the Wasilla town council.

Well so far she’s got him beat in both life and political experience… Unless you actually think a PoliSci degree counts as political experience.

Obama was a state senator of a district of more than 200,000 people while she was mayor of a town of less than 6,000.

So while she was working for the people, few though they might have been, Obama was voting “present” and attaching his name to other people’s bills. Still got him beat so far…

Obama has been a Senator of a state of 12.8 million people, and has worked on both domestic and foreign policy legislation and orchestrated one of the biggest primary campaigns in US history, while she has been governor of the 4th least populated state for only 20 months.

Again, he co-sponsored other people’s bills and spent most of that time running for President. Thanks for proving our point, Pops.

So if Republicans want to bring up Obama working as a community organizer they should be comparing it to what Palin was doing at the same point in her career, which was a local sports anchor.

Most of us prefer candidates who have had real jobs. “Community Organizer” is pretty low on the experience scale compared to Counselman, Mayor, Governor, or even sports anchor.

Posted by: Republicwin at September 4, 2008 9:18 PM
Comment #261590

Can someone please explain to me how Palin’s speech put our country first? I could care less that she ripped Obama, that is typical politics, but she purposely tried to turn Americans against each other in a culture war. That is unforgivable. And the fact that many republicans are rejoicing over that kind of speech tells me that they put party before country. I understand that there are huge differences between the parties, but attacking in such a way to try and split our own country is pathetic. I seem to remember another republican who did the same thing; although I think the republican party has him hidden in a hole somewhere.

In addition, Is John McCain seriously trying to reform Washington? Where has he been for the last eight years? Oh yeah, that’s right, he was busy supporting George Bush 90% of the time.


republicwin also states:
Most of us prefer candidates who have had real jobs. “Community Organizer” is pretty low on the experience scale compared to Counselman, Mayor, Governor, or even sports anchor.

Let’s clarify something about this statement. Community organizing is how ordinary people respond to out-of-touch politicians and their failed policies.


Posted by: Tom at September 4, 2008 9:53 PM
Comment #261593

Let’s clarify something about this statement. Community organizing is how ordinary people respond to out-of-touch politicians and their failed policies.

No, ordinary people run for office and replace them, the way Sarah did. Obama eventually figured that out too.

Posted by: Republicwin at September 4, 2008 10:03 PM
Comment #261604

Republiwin, that would mean 300 million Americans are extraordinary by your definition. Which cancels the definition of ordinary in the dictionary and elevates the extraordinary to the ordinary.

Was your comment crafted without the aid of an English dictionary? They are useful, you know, in communicating in the same language as others speak and comprehend. I use it frequently with pride. Though it does contribute to occasional sentences with pedantic proclivities.

Posted by: David R. Remer at September 4, 2008 10:32 PM
Comment #261608

Hey Pops McGee, check this out:

Palin attended five colleges in six years. Must have gotten a heckuva education, too. Since she thinks the Founding Fathers wrote the Pledge of Allegiance

Oh yeah, Palin is real brainiac who is definitely the kind of person we want as our leader.
“Absolutely. Yup, Yup!”

Posted by: Veritas Vincit at September 4, 2008 11:16 PM
Comment #261614

To all of you who keep insisting that Palin’s speech last night was a home run:

Your call reminds me of listening to Harry Carey towards the end of his career calling a fly ball -
“It’s a drive . . . it could be … it might be … it’s a foul out to the catcher.”

She may have hit the ball high but it didn’t have enough distance to leave the infield.

Posted by: tcsned at September 4, 2008 11:29 PM
Comment #261617

So, it appears that those pictures everyone was going on about the other day were fake…

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/charlotte-hilton-andersen/sarah-palin-bikini-pictur_b_123234.html

I’m sure we don’t wee any ‘oops’ from anyone, but so far you guys are batting around .333…

Posted by: Rhinehold at September 4, 2008 11:35 PM
Comment #261622

Oh, btw, it is fun reading the comments of people about Palin’s college years, not being able to deterime if there were 5 colleges or 4, 5 years or 6, BA or MBA? These are the people calling HER stupid…

Not that it matters, of course, just like so many other things, it doesn’t mean anything by itself. But, oh those assumptions!

Posted by: Rhinehold at September 4, 2008 11:55 PM
Comment #261659

Changing Leadership In Wartime
We know as do the terrorists that John McCain will pursue the Terrorists and hold rogue states accountable as do our allies. We also know that he is his own man and will bring his own brand of change to The Presidency and will fight for ethics in Washington.
Changing leadership during a war will give our allies pause and our enemies hope! We can be certain of this reaction because Obama is on record as wanting to negotiate with Iran/Korea/Venezuela on their turf, voted against the surge, was against removing Saddam Hussein and was initially soft on the Soviet Invasion of Georgia. At the same time Israel has confirmed that Biden told them to get used to a Nuclear Armed Iran so we know that he accepts that horrific eventuality and one can only assume that Obama does as well.

Posted by: captain my captain at September 5, 2008 7:58 AM
Comment #261692

American Pundit,

LOL, I doubt if she is actually a Russian spy but she could be for all we know. Maybe she is an Islamic spy.

Posted by: Ray Guest at September 5, 2008 10:36 AM
Comment #261701
it is fun reading the comments of people about Palin’s college years, not being able to deterime if there were 5 colleges or 4, 5 years or 6, BA or MBA?

Take it up with the Associated Press, since they wrote the article. Even if it was four colleges that Palin switched around five times it still shows how erratic and unstable her college years were. And since she actually believes the founders wrote the Pledge, I don’t think she was too focused on learning much about American History.

Posted by: Veritas Vincit at September 5, 2008 11:17 AM
Comment #261722

Jim M, And I respect yours. I just don’t respect god, since he doesn’t exist.

But let’s go further. Do you make sure to capitalize all of the other deities on the planet, or just that one?”
Posted by: Rhinehold at September 4, 2008 07:06 PM

When I am aware that I am naming someone’s deity in writing my answer is yes to show respect for my fellow human being’s beliefs. It costs me nothing, and does not diminish my personal beliefs to be civil and respectful.

Simply because I may disagree with someone’s beliefs is no reason to disrespect those beliefs. It is the practice of some to write Merry Christmas as Merry X-mass. I suppose for some it just shows ignorance, for others laziness, and for others contempt.

For me, it does not diminish my belief in a creator God and in his savior son Jesus Christ when someone attempts to deride or challenge my beliefs. Christianity has an early history of its adherents and apostles being persecuted, tortured, and killed for their beliefs. My understanding of human nature leads me to believe that those folks weren’t sacrificing their lives for a myth or conspiracy or from mental illness, but rather out of conviction.

As you will continue to use the lower case for God, I will continue to show you the respect you deserve as someone created and loved by God.

Posted by: Jim M at September 5, 2008 12:58 PM
Comment #261727

“Let’s clarify something about this statement. Community organizing is how ordinary people respond to out-of-touch politicians and their failed policies.” Posted by: Tom at September 4, 2008 09:53 PM

I read a Townhall.com article on Obama’s activities as a community organizer. Among other things, he helped folks living in housing projects get their toilets and other household necessities fixed, encouraged community action to get potholes in streets filled, helped folks apply for jobs and aid and urged the locals to attend city council meetings to address their concerns.

These are all admirable activities. The article quotes Obama as saying that after three years of community service he got bored and moved on to politics.

Resume enhancer for a novice politician, perhaps, qualification for president, hardly. Obama was acting as a “middle-man” for government largess. For doling out taxpayer money while being paid a salary and stipend he has earned political bonifides? I am from the government and I am here to help is common all over our country and there is nothing unique in that.

But, as usual, liberals love a government man dressed as Santa Claus doling out the goodies paid for by someone else. We hear great admiration for “ObamaClaus”, but hear no admiration for the taxpayers who provided the gifts.

Posted by: Jim M at September 5, 2008 1:24 PM
Comment #261814

Kansas Dem, you may be staying on the same page too long. If you have a problem posting, send an email to DRRemer@gvtc.com describing what happened. Sometimes posts are trapped in limbo when you use words it doesn’t like.

There is a comedy central page at dailymotion which contains the video so many people liked. On youtube, their videos are usually deleted, see youtomb for details on that. This one should stay up longer:
http://www.dailymotion.com/ComedyCentral

Posted by: ohrealy at September 5, 2008 6:48 PM
Comment #261887

But, as usual, liberals love a government man dressed as Santa Claus doling out the goodies paid for by someone else. We hear great admiration for “ObamaClaus”, but hear no admiration for the taxpayers who provided the gifts. Jim M

Oh I forgot, conservatives only dole out goodies to the wealthiest people in our country.

There used to be a tax code that basically was an agreement between the wealthiest people in this country and the middle class. Basically it assumed that the wealthiest people would pay substantially more in taxes so that middle class citizens could save enough money so that they could buy the very goods and services that these people sell. This agreement worked because it benefited both classes. However, in the past few years the greed of the right wing conservative base has overshadowed this compromise and wants not only to control the wealth, but to pay less in taxes. That’s fine, but what they are doing is going to cost them in the long run because now the middle class is shrinking and there are less people who can afford the products and services that the wealthy control.

I also find it funny that many conservatives say they support the troops, but don’t want to pay taxes. What do you think pays for our military? It really makes sense to say that you support the troops, but don’t want to pay the taxes that are used to provide them with the things they need.

Posted by: tom at September 6, 2008 10:20 AM
Comment #262025

tom says, “That’s fine, but what they are doing is going to cost them in the long run because now the middle class is shrinking and there are less people who can afford the products and services that the wealthy control.”

Gosh, I didn’t know the middle class is shrinking. Where do I go to find facts that support your claim tom?

I don’t believe I advocated so-called wealthy people not paying taxes. And, I have never said I don’t want to pay taxes. You are well aware of what conservatives are saying about taxes and how they are spent. What conservatives resist is SantaBama and his liberal moveon.org cronies granting “new rights” to select groups to pander for votes.

My position is that the national, state, county and local governments are already spending enough taxpayer money for social programs designed to create the illusion of “fairness” and to attempt to achieve the impossible liberal goal of “equality of results”.

Posted by: Jim M at September 7, 2008 2:55 PM
Comment #262068

tom,
Jim M,

The wealthy do not care if there is no middle class, and they don’t care if the dollar is only worth a penny. They will never do without their comforts as they’ll still have all the pennies. It is the shrinking middle class that will suffer the indignities of economic downturns because they won’t have any of the pennies.

My daughter works at a car dealership that sells Mercedes, Volvos and Mini-Coopers. She tells me that last month was the best month her dealership has ever had…the rich have all the pennies.

Us liberals are falling into the same hole in Cheney/bush’s economy that middle class conservatives are falling into. We are falling into the hole because the rich have all the pennies.

Gould, Aster, Cabot, Lodge, Kennedy et al, never worried about their comforts. There was no middle class, and they did not care…guess what…they had all the pennies.

Posted by: Marysdude at September 7, 2008 10:48 PM
Comment #262069

I should have mentioned that those gentlemen and all the others of their ilk, were politically much as we…they were Dems and Reps and Bull Moose, etc. Politics don’t matter in an economic downturn either…as long as you have all the pennies.

Posted by: Marysdude at September 7, 2008 10:52 PM
Comment #263103

We have made thorough inquiries with our sources in Russia’s far eastern region of Chukotka (just 53 miles from Alaskan America across the Bering Strait), and it turns out that Ms. Palin’s connection with Russia may have more wrinkles than a 44-year-old Texas Armadillo.

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