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I'm tired of Faux patriotic Republicans

Maybe we should be pledging allegiance to something that has some teeth and actually holds you accountable.

“I pledge allegiance to the Constitution
of the United States of America,
and to all principles for which it stands,
one Nation, the sons and daughters of all nations,
indivisible with Liberty and Justice for All. ”

Subject to improvement!

Posted by Mike Wrona at August 27, 2008 10:07 PM
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Comment #259811

I notice you took out ‘under God’…which phrase was never added to the Pledge until the Joe McCarthy days of ‘54 anyway.

…and I particularly like ‘the sons and daughters of all nations’, for that’s truly what we are.

Posted by: Glenn Contrarian at August 27, 2008 11:31 PM
Comment #259814

How does that “have teeth” or hold anyone accountable?

And what do you mean by saying that the Pledge of Allegiance in its current version is “Republican.” Please explain, as it’s never occurred to me that only Republicans hold the ideals embodied in the pledge. Is it true that Democrats reject these ideals, especially the God part? Only the God part? Please explain.

We, as Americans, should have loyalties to “other nations?” instead of the United States? Or do you only mean that we should consider ourselves the sons and daughters of Mexico, the Sudan, Germany, Russia, Cuba, Iran, France, etc., and pledge our allegiances accordingly? Just what are you saying? What new insight into the leftist mind are you offering here?

Posted by: Loyal Opposition at August 27, 2008 11:44 PM
Comment #259819

My interpretation would be that the current administration has turned the Constitution into a meaningless piece of paper….or would that be “**-damn piece of paper” ?? And we are the sons and daughters of all nations, since our ancestors immigrated here.
Am pretty sure there is some tongue-in-cheek going on there, too…. ;)

Posted by: janedoe at August 28, 2008 1:31 AM
Comment #259829

Republicans changed the Pledge in 1954 by inserting “under God”. They claimed we are a Christian Nation. The Constitution, the supreme law of the land, makes no religious claim nor does it mention a deity, or claim we are under the guidance of a deity. That is supported by the Francis Bellamy’s, a Baptist Minister by the way, original text.

I have a flag that was made in China. Is that Chinese flag to which you Republicans pledge your allegiance, or do you only pledge allegiance to American made flags.

Go here to see the Republican businessman produced “Made In China” American Flag:

http://prodemswny.blogspot.com/2008/07/dear-voters-in-29th-congressional.html

Republicans took God and made God political. Took the Flag and made it in China. We are not a nation under God just because the Republicans say we are. And we are not under a flag that can be made as cheaply and profitably as possible anywhere in the world. We are a nation under the Constitution, because we the citizens, after 200 years of voting approval, have reaffirmed it as our guiding principle.

That’s not Leftist, that’s fact.

If we need pledge allegiance to something, better the Constitution than to a Flag made in Hebei Province, China.

Posted by: Mike Wrona at August 28, 2008 10:29 AM
Comment #259830

Mike

How about this

“I pledge allegiance to the Constitution
of the United States of America,
and to all principles for which it stands,
one Nation, the sons and daughters of all ethnicities,
indivisible with Liberty, Justice and the right to worship for all. ”

Agreed, the republican claim to a more patriotic nature could not be more deceptive. It is a form of intimidation used to make them appear as more American than anyone who does not support them or their ideology. They prey on the sensibilities of the voter by creating an illusion of belittlement in hopes of drawing them into their lair. They are saying be a good American and join our cause. As if anyone who does not join with them is some sort of lesion on society. Such stratagems are in my opinion the lowest of low.

Posted by: RickIL at August 28, 2008 10:51 AM
Comment #259856

Mike,

To tell the truth I’ve always cringed a little at pledging allegience to a flag rather than the Consitiution. That part does not bother me at all. All the rest of it is fluff. The trouble is we have trouble agreeing on what we mean when we speak of the Constitution meaning something.

Furthermore we, even I, often drift into irrelevant political discussions about how this party or that party or political figure, as the symbol of what “YOU” believe proves “YOU” are just a hypocrite and don’t really care what the Constitution means when it says something.

This nation is not a “nation state”. (hence your phrase about “children of all nations”, which would make traditional nationhood nonsensical) Rather, it is an IDEA state, and the constitution is the physical embodiment of that idea.

Posted by: Lee Jamison at August 28, 2008 2:36 PM
Comment #259861

Kinda like all those folks who call you unamerican if you think starting a dishonorable war should not happen…say you lack patriotism if you believe your president is an unscrupulous jackass. It all boils down to the same thing: Many Republicans actually believe that if you disagree with them, you should move to another country…Well, Poop! I ain’t goin’…I’m staying here, because I do love my country. I love it too much to want to see it fall into another unscrupulous jackass’s hands.

Posted by: Marysdude at August 28, 2008 3:15 PM
Comment #259881

Marysdude, it’s amazing to me how the Democrats’ persecution complex is so deeply ingrained that they respond to make-believe slights.

Who are all these people saying that you’re unAmerican, that you lack patriotism, and that you should move to another country? I’ve never heard a single Republican candidate, party official, or office-holder say anything of the kind.

Posted by: Loyal Opposition at August 28, 2008 5:10 PM
Comment #259882

I like your pledge of allegiance better than the one adopted in the McCarthy era. There was a joke on The West Wing about some senator wanting to have “under god” inserted in the pledge 6 more times. “Huge in Japan” sounds like an Alphaville fan.

Posted by: ohrealy at August 28, 2008 5:14 PM
Comment #259887


Republicans use God the way Democrats use the old hippy slogan,”Power To The People.” Both are meaningless props used by politicians.

The American flag is manufactured in China because of the liberal/conservative alliance in government, paid for by the American taxpayers/consumers and brought into existance with bribes from multi-national corporations and their shareholders. The same is true of the 25 to 30 million illegal immigrants in our country.

Whether God exists or not, we voluntarily participate in an economic system that pretends that there is no God. There is no life after death, no punishment, no reward.

We gleefully run the rat race of life, trying to out distance one another to garner our share of treasure that we can’t take with us. Somewhere, in some neat little cubby hole in the backs of our minds is all the injustice used to get us what we have.

Posted by: jlw at August 28, 2008 5:52 PM
Comment #259902

Both parties invoke God all the time and have done so since time immemorial. Didn’t Carter? Didn’t Clinton—both Clintons? Hasn’t Obama been talking quite a bit about his religion? In this last cycle, both parties had ministers running unsuccessfully for their party’s nomination.

The only difference is that there’s a much higher percentage of atheists among Democrats—that doesn’t mean, however, that the party leaders don’t talk about God this and God that all the time.

Posted by: Loyal Opposition at August 28, 2008 9:00 PM
Comment #259904

the right has a monopoly on patriotism and the commodity of fear. To win the war, one must always take the moral high-ground, or you will just create enemies faster than you can kill them.

Posted by: angrymob at August 28, 2008 9:20 PM
Comment #259906
We gleefully run the rat race of life, trying to out distance one another to garner our share of treasure that we can’t take with us. Somewhere, in some neat little cubby hole in the backs of our minds is all the injustice used to get us what we have.

This beautifully and accurately describes how modern progressives see the Human Condition.

I feel so sad for them. :(

Posted by: Rhinehold at August 28, 2008 9:29 PM
Comment #260046

I think you better go back to school to brush up on your U.S. History.

Posted by: KAP at August 29, 2008 2:23 PM
Comment #260047


I realize that from a Darwinist point of view, injustice is actually justice.

Posted by: jlw at August 29, 2008 2:23 PM
Comment #261038

But Barack got the surge wrong!

Posted by: Surge at September 2, 2008 5:35 PM
Comment #261653

John McCain Is A Known Quantity
You know John McCain. You know you can trust John McCain.
What do you really know about Barack Obama? Do you really know if you can trust him?

Posted by: smokey at September 5, 2008 7:52 AM
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