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Just Say No: Boycott the media

The economy is in the crapper. More American soldiers are dying in Iraq (link). Fuel costs have skyrocketed (link). People doing bizarre things to get health-care (link). Housing prices are dropping (link). Foreclosures are rising (link) and what are we hearing in the media? Jeremiah Wright said some stupid things.

What does Jeremiah Wright have anything to do with this nation's problems?

Hasn’t this nation been hoodwinked enough by the complete and utter demise of the media’s manipulation of politics? Haven’t we learned enough from the years and years of planted stories, fake-news spots and so-called experts pontificating night after night? How can we as American’s make honest assessments of anything of value if all that we’re presented with are innuendo, half-truths and supposition from the 24 hour-a-day nationwide chatter of punditry?

It’s high-time that this nation boycott this media.

Republican. Democrat. Independent. Black. White. Asian. Catholic. Jewish. Muslim. Whathaveyou: It’s time that we as Americans, for a period of one-month, turn off our televisions and radios, stop purchasing newspapers, do not buy that news magazine and do not read online news. Completely detach yourself from the media is every, way shape or form.

Tell the media to get back to reporting the news that matters.

Posted by john trevisani at April 30, 2008 10:44 AM
Comments
Comment #251772

Yes. I have said many times I wish the media would report more on Iraq. They did report the spike in deaths this month, but all the times when there is postitive news, they are nowhere to be found. The spike makes it the worst month in seven months. How much did you hear about those seven?

Is there really anybody who has not seen the media reports about rising fuel costs and dropping housing prices? Of course both those things are mixed blessings. The rising fuel cost is cutting greenhouse gas emissions, but making it hard for people. Falling home prices are making housing more affordable, but cutting into the profits of existing homeowners. I agree that the media doesn’t do nuance well.

Wright, however, is a short but important issue. His kind of racist hate should be attacked. I praised Obama for smacking him down. In the end, it will probalby neither hurt nor help Obama. He hung around with nuts (hurt), but he smacked him down (help) so it will wash.

Posted by: Jack at April 30, 2008 11:13 AM
Comment #251774

“Tell the media to get back to reporting the news that matters.”
Posted by john trevisani at April 30, 2008 10:44 AM

John, in some ways I would agree, the problem as I see it, is our definition of news. I am old enough to remember when the big three networks controlled the news on TV and would actually tell the viewer when they were switching from news to editorial. Does anyone remember Eric Severoid? (I may be spelling that wrong) Once a week or so he would give his views on the news of the week. It was presented separately from the news and clearly presented as an editorial.

Today, it seems we get most of our news presented as opinion. Walter Cronkite did a good job of reporting, not editorializing, most of the time and was considered the most honest talking head on TV. To my knowledge, no one holds that title today.

CNN, in their early years reported news separately from opinion. As more opinion crept into their news it opened the way for FOX to enter the field to provide an opposing viewpoint.

Many years ago I subscribed to Time Magazine. It became too liberally slanted in its reporting and I switched to Newsweek. Then it too became very slanted to the left and I switched to U.S. News and World Report. So far, I believe they present the news and their opinion fairly.

Are we better off today with our news reporting? I would say no, because too many folks get their news, and thus much of their opinion, from just one or two biased sources and lack the education and training to know the difference between a fact and a fart.

Just as our nation has become divided between left and right, so has our news reporting. CNN is left, Fox is right, the NY Times is left and other papers are right.

Are our news reporting sources leading us, or following us? I really don’t know.

Posted by: Jim M at April 30, 2008 12:04 PM
Comment #251776

John, people choose the news sources that they want. “the 24 hour-a-day nationwide chatter of punditry” is one way of getting the news. Getting the RSS feeds from the AP, Reuters, and other sources is another. I add the News Hour on PBS at night, and don’t see too much of the kind of BS you are talking about, unless I choose to watch it. The BHO/Wright thing is being repeated endlessly because investigative reporting barely exists for national TV. If it did, this story would have peaked months ago. The writer’s strike actually delayed this story from coming out.

I have the television on a lot when I am at home, but pay little attention to it. I actually watch most of the programs that I like on their websites. Also, naughty copywright violators upload a lot to Youtube without commercials. CBS still has their channel on youtube, although NBC gave up on them, and Comedy Central seems to be warring. Most ABC content is available on their website.

I almost always have my laptop on when I’m awake, if only to play music. Television networks know they are in competition with other media, and try to concentrate on whatever they think is the biggest thing right at that moment. Then they drop it and move on, when someone thinks they have found the next big thing. Comedy shows try ot laugh along with the news, so you might just say that the news is a joke.

Posted by: ohrealy at April 30, 2008 12:49 PM
Comment #251787

AMEN brother John- AMEN!!!

IMO it is time that the liberal bias that we all love-takes back the air waves and newspapers from the likes of FOX news and Rupert Murdoch (who is set to take over another newspaper).

It is time that we stop pandering to the so called news stations which are nothing more that platforms for political commentary. Quick listening, quick watching, go to CSPAN!!!

Posted by: Carolina at April 30, 2008 2:37 PM
Comment #251794

‘Today, it seems we get most of our news presented as opinion.’
Posted by: Jim M at April 30, 2008 12:04 PM

Maybe the ‘elite news media’ believes, if they gave us the news, we may actually form an opinion of our own.

Posted by: Dawn at April 30, 2008 5:06 PM
Comment #251818

Dr Hubert,

Repeating falsehoods does not make them true.

Accountability for one’s own behavior is important. You seem to wish to make Obama accountable for the behavior of others, be they his pastor, some other expert that CNN interviewed (for a misstatement), a pastor who happened to praise him (whose name is spelled Farrakhan) or an associate for things he did when Obama was a child.

Obama was NEVER a Muslim.
Ayers had nothing to do with Obama’s rise to prominence.
Obama has co-authored a number of bills in addition to others that he signed his name to.
Obama has no personal relationship with Farrakhan.

Please check your facts before posting, and provide links for those likely to be disputed.

Posted by: Walker Willingham at April 30, 2008 7:35 PM
Comment #251820

Dr. Hubert, Lt Col:
Firstly, thank you for your service.

Secondly, thank you for proving that the media has spun this country into such a tizzy that people are repeating nonsense dribble about what someone’s pastor said. Why stop there? Let’s look at what books he read. Let’s look at what type of movies he rents. Why stop there.

Posted by: john.trevisani at April 30, 2008 7:41 PM
Comment #251957

His natural father left him. His second father left him. Then his mother left him. His grandmother raised him. He realized Christianity 23 years ago when he met T. Wright. That leaves another 20 or so years to his exposure to Indonesia, 2 fathers leaving him, a mother leaving him.

He talks good. He has a lot of education considering his roots. Why does he have this education, considering his roots? Look deeper.

Posted by: Weary Willie at May 2, 2008 7:20 PM
Comment #251975

We are hearing all these things in the media or you wouldn’t know about them to complain we don’t hear about them enough.

Why does Wright matter? Really? Because he’s one of the only insights we have to who Obama really is. here is the man that Obama told us just days ago that he could no more disown than his own grandmother. The man Obama called mentor and spiritual guide and friend for 20 years and whom he never spoke out against, until the camera was on him. And now he has flip flopped on Wright. Wright went from right to wrong very rapidly?

Obams isn’t running for dog catcher. He wants to be president of the worlds only super power. So spending 20 feet worshiping at Wright’s feet means Wright matters. Obama just didn’t seem to be smart enough to understand that…perhaps he’s not ready?

Posted by: StephenL at May 2, 2008 11:21 PM
Comment #251977

StephenL:
Hmmm. So then the same goes for Jerry Falwell, Billy Graham and Pat Robertson. All stood side-by-side as Presidential advisors for Bush, Nixon, Reagan, et al.
And these wonderful examples of spiritual unity blamed the ‘Jews’ for the problems in the world (Graham), blamed the ‘gays’ for bringing on 911 (Falwell) and Robertson agreed with Falwell adding that ACLU should be hanged.

Yet… the media didn’t replay their images over and over again and link their bigoted remarks to the president. No, the media allowed those WHITE bigots to throw hate speech out through the airwaves and never ask a question to the President about his ‘relationship’ with these bigots.

Or maybe Bush isn’t ‘smart enough to understand’.

Posted by: john trevisani at May 2, 2008 11:36 PM
Comment #251978

John, I thought i was perfectly clear. Obama spent 20 years at this mans feet telling us what a great mentor he was.

If you can point to same for Bush then I agree 100% that this tells us much about Bush.

You are setting up an false comparison, and apples and oranges thing. And you know it, and so does everyone who reads it, so where does this get us?

Obama is still left supporting the ranting bigot Wright for 20 years never having said a thing against his hate, while dragging his family off to be “taught” by him.

Obamas problem is that he supports the politically correct hate that progressives tell us is ok for blacks to have for whites. And he got caught supporting it while pretending he was the answer to racism. That’s his problem, not Bush’s.

Posted by: Stephenl at May 2, 2008 11:45 PM
Comment #251992

StephenL:
Really? That’s it? Obama stated his adamant opposition to Wright’s bizarre rants. i must of missed Bush’s when Robertson and Falwell went on similar rants.

Why stop at Wright then? For it’s not just one man or one thing that makes up the character of a person, right? So why stop at Wright?

Let’s look at the books he reads.

Let’s look at the movies he watches.

Let’s talk to a crazy uncle in his family who thinks that chlorine has damaged the water supply in such a way that people are being drained of their natural resources and believes that the government should be overthrown because they are putting chlorine in the water supply.

These are things things that ‘define a person’ aren’t they? So why not. Let’s draw some stupid correlation between Obama reading Tropic of Cancer and say that he’s sexual deviant. Let’s draw another stupid correlation between watching a Charles Bronson movie and say that he’s a vigilante.

StephenL if you are SO interested in finding out what is in Obama’s character, look at what the man did and said, not what OTHERS AROUND HIM did and said. i’m sure the media, if they were REALLY interested in seeking the truth behind Obama’s character would dig up his MANY, MANY articles that he wrote while Obama was Editor of Harvard Law Review. But they’re not.

If you’re so concerned about who a person hangs out with, let’s look at McCain. Can you say Charles Keating? And what’s worse about McCain’s association with Keating is that it all occurred AFTER McCain became Senator. That McCain used his influence to give help to a person that ripped off the government. McCain’s actions point to both the person’s character when he was in the position of power and what he did with that power.

But if you want to define people by who they have associations with, then go right ahead.

Posted by: john trevisani at May 3, 2008 7:50 AM
Comment #252030

John,

Obama’s first effort to deal with Wright was to tell us he NEVER heard this before. He had not clue Wright said these things. It was LUDICROUS for him to suggest that. Within hours the press was starting to talk about how long it would be before we could put Obama in the crowd at some rant and prove Obama LIED.

Obama quickly came out to try and stop from being pegged as the liar he was, and changed his story. Now saying of course he had heard this before but didn’t go along with it. But then put forward the case for why Black racism and hate is JUSTIFIED.

Thus proving he did go for it. Telling us “average white people” how racist we are like Grandma. And he could no more toss grandma under the bush the buss. But Grandma he did toss under the bus as racist. And in a few days, his big speech proved to be hollow BS as he tossed Wright away too.

I’m learning about Obama’s character. I’ve learned he spends the pork. I’ve learned he gets a 6 figure discount on his home arranged by a criminal. I’ve learned he has a friend who killed Americans in a terrorist act and that guy is still proud of it. I’ve learned he feels that I’m just some Bitter racist white guy who “clings” to my religion apparently out of some angry fear and foolish attempt to deal with a world I don’t understand. I’ve learned he thinks I own a gun because I’m bitter and scared. And he thinks I oppose Illegal immigration for same reasons. And he thinks these are great applause lines to put me down to his liberal “enlightened” friends in California.

I know who Obama is, why do you want to recontextualize him into something else. He’s telling us who he is, and it’s pretty darn ugly. He’s a progressive liberal. And he believes in some of the most hateful of the far lefts belief system. And every time we learn about it, it damages him. From his condescending elitist attitude to his racism to his belittling of patriotism to his desire for socialism, Obama stands for everything I do not.

Who do you think you are fooling her, John? Not me.

Posted by: StephenL at May 3, 2008 8:10 PM
Comment #252051

StephenL:
Thanks for supplying the sources for the stuff you ‘learned about Obama’s character’.

Rezko: http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_obama_have_a_real_estate_problem.html
Terrorist Link:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=57231
Bitter Racist:
couldn’t find your blog… sorry
He thinks (you) oppose illegal immigration:
Well now. i certainly have mis-underestimated you, StephenL; i didn’t know that you have had direct communication with Senator Obama.

Look, it’s pretty obvious that you don’t like him. You’re entitled to you opinion. i just hope it’s your opinion and not some regurgitated dribble from FNC. In any case, i’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you’ve done your independent research into Obama and found some things that you personally find questionable in his ‘character’.

How do you feel about people that drink and drive?
How do you feel about people using influence to avoid military duty while other less connected people serve their country?
How do you feel about people that claim to be Christian people that never attend church?

Posted by: john trevisani at May 3, 2008 11:18 PM
Comment #252139

John, your show me a link and are you smart enough to do research put downs are laughable. But, smearing your “opponents” is the way you operate, right JOhn?

Posted by: stephen at May 5, 2008 12:21 AM
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