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Cindy is right; it IS up to us.

Cindy Sheehan called it quits this weekend. (link)Concluding that: “It’s up to you now” if you want to stop the war. Cindy is right; absolutely right.

She's correct that the Democrats gave up on their pledge to get out of Iraq. She's correct in saying that 'blind loyalty is dangerous whatever side it occurs on'. And she's right that, after much thought and reflection, her son, Casey, died for a country that cares more about which person is crowned the next American Idol, rather than the number of people being killed on a daily basis in this illegal war.

She's been called every name under the sun for wanting to end this war in the name of her son, Casey. If she didn't go far enough left, the liberals on the left let her know. If she said anything against the Bush Administration, the GOP machine fired up the media to shout-down her dissent.

As this war machine continues to drive both the Republicans and Democrats of this country to make wrong decision after wrong decision, more Caseys of this country will die. And blind loyalty to either party does a disservice to the founders of this great land, as well as those who have fought and given their lives to protect this land.

Farewell Cindy; it's up to us now.

Posted by john trevisani at May 29, 2007 10:51 AM
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You’re right about Cindy Sheehan. She and her cause were used and abused by both far right wingers and the fringe left wing.

The left goaded her on to do more and more outrageous things, while the right painted her as a certifiable cantidate for the loony bin.

What was the cost?

Nationally, the left and right became more deaf to each other, the nation split and all the noise got ratcheted up to a deafening roar…pitting neighbor against neighbor, son against father, daughter against mother.

Personally, it cost Sheehan her relationships with her children and a failed marriage…not to mention the financial hardships.

Let this be a lesson to everyone here. To let yourself or your cause be used and abused by one party or another will only end in grief, hardship and nobody in power in either party will give a damn.

Posted by: Jim T at May 29, 2007 12:36 PM
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The body count in Iraq yesterday was sickening enough. This war should have ended years ago. The Bush excuse last week went back to Saddam Hussein, who is dead and gone. We all saw them hanging him on youtube, but the war goes on and on and on.

Jimmy Carter’s comment about The overt reversal of America’s basic values was right on target. I used to say that this administration was the worst since Franklin Pierce, to emphasise the alleged family connnection through Barbara Pierce Bush. Now I agree with Carter that this administration is the worst in history.

Posted by: ohrealy at May 29, 2007 1:40 PM
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One down, many (anti-war/Bushie nuts) to go!

Posted by: rahdigly at May 29, 2007 1:47 PM
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>>One down, many (anti-war/Bushie nuts) to go!

Posted by: rahdigly at May 29, 2007 01:47 PM

Thanks, rah, I needed a reminder that righties are ignoble, nutcases who lack honor and/or courtesy.

Mrs. Sheehan may have been used by the far left, and she may have been abused by you far righties, but neither makes her or her cause wrong. I understand why she’s quitting, as she had become an ineffectual lightning rod…what a pity.

Posted by: Marysdude at May 29, 2007 2:15 PM
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You “realy” believe Carter? lol

Posted by: Cliff at May 29, 2007 3:36 PM
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Jimmy Carter is a saint and a genius compared to the current drunken idiot that occupies the White House

Posted by: ohrealy at May 29, 2007 5:17 PM
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As much as the Bush supporters would like to make it so, this thread isn’t about their poster-boy Carter. This is about a voice of dissent stepping down from a movement that she helped found.

Cindy Sheehan has endured many obstacles during her fight. And the last straw was when the party that she fought to gain back some power, abandoned her in an effort to have some happy-face, time on the tube.

Sheehan had the self-effacing backbone to stand-up for what she believed in, driven by the overwhelming loss of her son, to do what she believed was the right thing to do.

She sacrificed everything. She endured death-threats from the very same Americans that shout “Support the Troops” at the top of their lungs while she stood vigil outside of Crawford.

You might like her politics. You might not agree with her tactics. You might not even like her wardrobe. But i offer this question to anyone applauding the resignation of this woman:

If you had the same conviction about a subject that she had would you have the same guts to hold up to pressure of death threats?

Posted by: john trevisani at May 29, 2007 5:28 PM
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If the truth were to be told, john, I’m pretty sure the answer would be a resounding “no” !!
It’s amazing how much strength we find after we have lost a child, and our need in some way to justify it, or have it make sense. There are no good reasons for a loss, but to this war, there would never be a softening to that loss.

Posted by: Sandra Davidson at May 29, 2007 8:34 PM
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I cannot add much to what Sheehan said, “However, when I started to hold the Democratic Party to the same standards that I held the Republican Party, support for my cause started to erode and the ‘left’ started labeling me with the same slurs that the right used.”

I said before that she was in over her head on the issues of war and peace. She also did not understand the nature of the left wingers who were manipulating her. She did understand grief and now she understand betrayal.

The left rode the poor woman until she could go on no more and then they dumped her. This is the lefty MO.

So listen to what Cindy Sheehan says. The right didn’t beat her down. She was crushed by her own leftist “supporters”.

Posted by: Jack at May 29, 2007 10:05 PM
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Jack, your comment wreaks of conspiratorial paranoia. The plain reality is, Cindy was neither duped nor used by anyone. She spoke her peace, and invited others to share her opinions and actions. She never altered her position to accomodate Democrats or Republicans.

It was Democrats who betrayed their own rhetoric, used the media about Cindy for their purposes, but, they did not use Cindy Sheehan. They simply joined her message while it was expedient to do so, and dissociated from it when it wasn’t.

I don’t recall Democrats calling for her to be jailed, or run out of the country for treason. That was pure Republican voter’s rhetoric circulating the host talk and call in shows.

Posted by: David R. Remer at May 29, 2007 10:44 PM
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According to a Time report in April, Cindy is up to her ears in a possible investigation into her original Crawford Peace House non-profit organization’s finances. No wonder she is calling it quits, Jon Trevisani. You paint a “Sorry, to see you go, and God Bless” picture of her departure, yet, you give not the details, Jon. Why is that?

According to Time / CNN, peace activists, led by Sara Oliver, allege the leaders of Peace House has mismanaged thousands of dollars and lost its State of Texas non-profit charter this year for failing to file franchise tax reports in 2006. The Directors, including Sheehan lost their legal cover from liabilities when their charter was voided.
Sara Oliver, a Democrat, who feels shafted by Sheehan’s Peace House, is trying to get someone in the State of Texas to investigate where the Peace House funds went, and the status of their finances.
The present Peace House Director, Kay Lucas claims the Peace House ended 2006 with just $14,722 left. However, Oliver claims some $300,000 was raised at an outdoor showing of Michael Moore’s “Fahrenheit 9/11”!

Cindy Sheehan has now purchased another site which she has deemed “Camp Casey”. How quaint!
It seems to me before Jon quickly ushers poor Cindy and her Peace House out, he should be demanding, “Show me the money!” There seems to be at least a few Democrats in Texas that sure would like to know.


Posted by: JD at May 30, 2007 1:25 AM
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Who is “realy” drinking here???

Posted by: Cliff at May 30, 2007 8:38 AM
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No matter what you thought or think of Cindy, at least she had the courage to stand up for what she beleived in. She was used by both sides of the isle for their own purpose, which was wrong by both sides, shame on them.

Luckly we still live in a country where you can openly disagree with the President and his policies,Congress and American Society.

Posted by: KT at May 30, 2007 9:51 AM
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Cindy Sheehan was on the cover of the Redeye this morning, They chose a sad photo instead of the happy one on the CBS story quoted above. The headline was Peace Mom: I give up. It quotes her as saying that her son did indeed die for nothing.

On memorial day, the news media showed parents trying to deal with the deaths of their children in Iraq, saying that they had died for our country. Iraq is not our country.

Posted by: ohrealy at May 30, 2007 1:24 PM
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This was a terrific post and a thoughtful tribute to one of the many many casualties of Bush terrorism. As much as this whole mess sickens me, from its very inception, I can not even imagine what Cindy Sheenan has endured. Never mind her courage in the political fight, this woman lost a son because a few immoral, American-born, fascist terrorists that do not represent what this country symbolizes or values (irrespective of who “founded” it). This administration, by far the most dangerous and the worse one in US history, is despicable. Here are some more questions to ponder.

What does sending the US volunteer military on reckless mission, under false pretences no less, have to do with “family values?

How does the cost of Bush’s WAR ON THE AMERICAN MILITARY help to “cut taxes” and lower the national debt?

How does Bush terrorism and abuse of the military lead to “small government?”

How does the daily loss of American life because of the idiot terrorist Bush war support “right to life?” Do we need a Roe v. Wade to prevent Bush from murdering any more Americans?

I’m not even going to take the time to pose questions about US national security—been there, done that.

Those who continue to align themselves with this Bush war do so in the name of politics and politics only! I believe that is true whether you come from right or the left (like lefty-turned-righty Joe Lieberman) or from the center.

Support for the Bush war (directly or passively) is immoral, unpatriotic, and a reckless disregard for the lives of Americans who volunteer to protect us from legitimate threats—foreign and domestic. Who is protecting them from Bush terrorism?

Cindy Sheehan’s fight was NOT about politics it was about what is moral, just, and the right thing to do.

So unless any of you Bush devotees who blog here are casualties of Bush terrorism, as Cindy Sheehan is, who gives a DAMN about your WRONG point of view?

You are on the wrong side if you support Bush in his terrorism against the American military. No amount of vehement Bush supporting, no amount of bashing those of us on the CORRECT and MORAL side of this issue, and no amount of the convenient “Bush-hater” rhetoric is going to change the fact that Bush supporters of his war are just plain WRONG.

You Bush devotees—again I ask you, why not put your life where your rhetoric is? Go over to Iraq; volunteer to join the troops and assist in proving to us “haters” how GWB Iraq war policy is good decision making, and how it will help the US win this war. Isn’t that what you Bush-devotees expect, victory in Iraq (given enough time for Bush policy to work)? Well, instead of cheerleading on the sideline for your “Commander and Chief,” join the team on the FRONT LINE! Go help get the “victory” that Bush is so sure will eventually happen!

Posted by: Kim-Sue at May 30, 2007 3:43 PM
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I am only quoting what Sheehan said. Perphaps the Dems betrayed themselves too.

Posted by: Jack at May 31, 2007 7:53 AM
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The suit said although the CIA had released Plame’s dates of service in an unclassified document, “the CIA now purports to classify or reclassify Ms. Wilson’s pre-2002 federal service dates” so it cannot be published in her memoir “Fair Game.”

The CIA had also demanded “significant portions” of Wilson’s manuscript be “excised or rendered ‘fiction”’ to protect the secrecy of Wilson’s service before 2002, it said.

Guess why?

Because she was a undercover oil executive investigating weapons smuggling.

That’s why her cover got blown.
Can’t have another Iran contra scandal on the republicans heads now can we….

Posted by: jrjr at May 31, 2007 8:52 PM
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