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Gonzales preparing for the performance of his life

It’s worse than sad that the AG needs to “practice” testifying before the main event at the Senate Judiciary Committee next Tuesday. A certain amount of preparation before critical testimony might be expected but 2 weeks worth seems to be for something of a performance rather than an opportunity for clearing the air and truth telling.

The suspicion here is that the AG is practicing remaining consistent on his and the administration's version of the story, learning and practicing how to minimize the potential for untruths by means of obfuscation. To keep from revealing anything and keep from lying in a way that can be caught, he will have to answer questions with non-answers and somehow make the non-answers seem satisfying just the same.

The leaks from those practice sessions suggest that Gonzales is not doing very well in his preparations. Is anyone actually buying that? Apparently the MSM is. These suggestions that the AG's preparation is not going well are continually reported straight, without reporting on why the leaks might be made.

But who are these leakers? A person in the know would be very close and would have an agenda. Remember when George W. Bush was preparing for political debates against reputedly much more articulate opponents? His political team worked the media to lower expectations of Bush's performance. The idea was that if expectations were low enough, all Bush would have to do was not make an ass of himself and could be declared the winner. Is something like this being spinned on Gonzales's behalf? Are the leaks advance preparation for his defense? Is there an allowance to be made for false testimony because an "unknown source" revealed that Gonzales privately had trouble keeping the facts straight in his own mind? And this is the U.S. Attorney General?

Posted by John Paul McCarty at April 14, 2007 12:02 PM
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Comment #216579

I think the proper preparation can be found HERE!

I’m so sick of the corruption. Not only do we have to clean up the mess these guys have made of our country but we also have to proceed with a nearly unending list of a scandals when we have so much other work to do.

Is there some way to sue the Republican Party for damages it’s foisted on this countries people. These people are so much more damaging then any street thug or bank robber. They need to do jail time.

It’s time to make politicians so scared to be politicians that only the cleanest and well -intended would apply.

Posted by: muirgeo at April 14, 2007 1:51 PM
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muirgeo
Not only the reps but the dems to. They both have a hand in screwing up this country.

Posted by: KAP at April 14, 2007 2:22 PM
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KAP,

Absolutely. I want the Dems in charge for a while but I don’t want to assume they will not stray either. We, the base, need to hold our leadership responsible and insist on more open and honest government. No incumbent should go unchallenged from within his own party if they stray at all.

Unfortunately the Republican base has done nothing but make excuses for their leadership putting their party ahead of their country. Now look what they have for presidential candidates. It’s pathetic!

Posted by: muirgeo at April 14, 2007 3:36 PM
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Jean Paul: Yes, Gonzalez is in for the performance of his life. Unfortunately, he’s put himself into a corner from which he cannot come out. If he tells the truth, he is criminally liable for obstruction of justice. If he lies, he is liable for perjury and obstruction of justice.

The problem for Alberto is that he’s never held a professional positon as an attorney. He was an associate in Texas law firm where he did nothing but legal research (think, librarian). Then, he connected with Dubya who appointed him to the TX Supreme Court where his colleages discovered the man was incompetent. Then, he followed Dubya to Washington and the rest is history. The only “qualification” Alberto has is kissing Dubyas hairless backside. While we can disagree about Ashcroft’s tenure at the DOJ, no one ever suggested he was not competent to do the job. Alberto is the politcal hack that he is without any qualifications to do anything else in life. As things stand now, he will not have a law license for very long. Perjury & obstruction of justice is not well received by the bar, especially when it comes from a political hack.

Posted by: Allen at April 14, 2007 3:57 PM
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muirgeo
Why put in another corrupt party? Don’t you think this country has seen enough of the BS a two party system gave us. As d.a.n. keeps saying vote them all out and start over. We need fresh leadership in this country.

Posted by: KAP at April 14, 2007 4:20 PM
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The real trick for Gonzales is going to be learning what damning evidence exists out there that he must sidestep in order to avoid being caught in lies before the Congress.

No easy trick, as I am sure many in the White House, and many who have left it, are not going to confess to having left bread crumbs of unethical or illegal behavior spread all over the place, out of fear of their own necks coming onto the block.

The Peter Principle is rampant in the White House with more than 150 appointees having graduated from that Pat Robertson law school. As Bill Maher pointed out this last week, Pat Robertson has been a central selector of White House appointees with the assistance of President Bush.

It is going to be interesting to watch the Pat Robertson graduates try to defend themselves against Congressional Committee aides and Congresspersons with real law degrees. It may end up looking like a group of children on a hunting trip with VP Dick Cheney and his shotgun.

Posted by: David R. Remer at April 14, 2007 5:06 PM
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David,

I like that you get your info from Bill Maher. It sheds light on the way your mind doesn’t work.

Posted by: wkw at April 14, 2007 6:38 PM
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It matters not where you get your info as long as it’s the truth. Bill Maher is right look it up.

Posted by: Jeff at April 14, 2007 7:57 PM
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It seems entirely believable to me, considering Gonzales’s previous press conferences and hearings, that the man really does have a problem absorbing and retaining information, even basic information about matters which he is supposed to be overseeing.

And to think this guy was once on a short list of potential nominees to the Supreme Court.

Posted by: Loyal Opposition at April 14, 2007 11:20 PM
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wkw, spoken like a person who gets their information from a single source and doesn’t want to be confused by truth or facts. Right On, Bro. It pleases me to contemplate the possibility that you are a Republican supporter, though you may not be. But, if you are, it is pleasant to ponder the long stay in the wilderness supporters of that Party will endure in America’s future.

It is so obtuse to assume that a person is of one nature or another by a single quoting of information from one source. Those who know me here, know well that I am no Democrat and no friend of the Democratic Party.

But, thank you for revealing the efficacy of your future remarks.

Here are some facts you may find useful. America politics are not going to be determined by Democrats or Republicans. Democrats make up just a bit more than 30% of voters. Republicans now less than 30%. Independents now make up almost 40% of all voters.

If you can add, these facts should give you some glimpse into America’s future, and it doesn’t look promising for either the Democratic or Republican parties in terms of ever ruling as a majority party for any length of time. Given their past records, this is as it should be.

Posted by: David R. Remer at April 15, 2007 12:41 AM
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The thing that gets me about Gonzales is not his lack of management skills and inability to deal with those he leads its his arguement denying Haebus Corpus that W should have canned him for.

David, so true, the momentum is shifting and there will be competition at the national level for the repubs and dems. The independants are going to determine the course of American politics. Hopefully about 3 more major parties will come of it all.

Posted by: j2t2 at April 15, 2007 1:10 AM
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John,

Gonzales is almost certainly Gonzo! I think Bush is just waiting out the inevitable. Just think, if Bush fired him now, who’d be left to bear the brunt of the attacks? The longer things can be drug out the better. Twenty months and running……….

The missing emails may actually be the impeachable offense I’ve hoped for if, and only if more emails were “lost” after Fitzgerald notified the authorities that emails were missing in regard to the Plame outing. Only time will tell!

To be honest I’m disgusted with both parties.

I’m still liberal, but I’m having more and more trouble attaching Dem to the end of my moniker. We Dems have done a lousy job of re-framing the debate on Iraq.

Both parties have become “big tent” parties.

The Republicans have a mixture of old school conservatives that would actually be better suited to the Libertarian Party, the Neo-Cons (sans PNAC), and the Religious Right.

The Democrats have the environmentalists, the Peace-Niks (including me), those for Social Justice (again including me), and those damn Kennedy’s.

Corruption and dishonesty have become the “norm” in public office. I’m pretty damn sure this was not the intent of the framers of our Constitution. This BS of the “pot calling the kettle black” is destroying us as a nation, both internally, and as an International power.

We, as a nation, have sunken into a very sad state. Where do we go from here?

Posted by: KansasDem at April 15, 2007 2:30 AM
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David R. Remer:

You talk as if those 40% Independents are worth anything. They don’t vote!!! As non-voters, they are less than even the most rabid Leftie or WingNut.

Posted by: Juan dela Cruz at April 15, 2007 7:41 AM
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Juan,
We 40% do vote and in about the same percentage as you 30%ers. We just as of yet have had no alternative that we thought could win to vote for. Yes their is that 5% (I belong to it) that vote 3rd party/independant in almost every election. Just think We have 2 indpendant Senators now, what happens when we have 5, 10 soon we will be able to caucas together and then the D’s and R’s will not have a 50% majority and will actually have to tone down the BS. That will probably be the end of the D’s and R’s and a majority parties.
Another thing the 30% on the D’s and R’s also include independants (like me) so the can vote in the primaries. I did vote for 3 Dem’s in the last election Kerry cause Bush is just that incompatant, The Repersentative for Fed congress cause I knew he would only get about 30% of the vote in this extremely conservative district and one for state senator cause the R’ was an incumbant. I did vote for and R to my state repersentative. I voted for quite a few L’s C’s and G’s also.
Give it a couple of more cycles and people will soon be fed up with the double talk from the major parties. As soon as the C’s L’s G’s ect run a candidate for Rep/Senate that is articulate main stream and not trying to devide and concor you may just see some of these 5% parties getting more the 5% of the vote.

Posted by: timesend at April 15, 2007 9:33 AM
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LO: We rarely agree. However, I agree with your sentiments in your post, above.

Regarding preparation for testimony: Practicing attorneys will tell you that preparation is a double-edged sword. It’s great for anticipated questions. Unfortunately, whether in a trial or in a Congressional hearing, it’s the unanticipated questions that well sink a witness. The more prepared you are, the less able you will be in handling the unanticipated questions.

My father, may he RIP, was an attorney and I recall him saying time and time again when I was growing up that the best witness prepartion by an attorney is simple: tell the truth, the whole truth, & nothing but the truth as simply as your can even if you think the truth will hurt you. One of the worse things a witness can do is try to make himself look better than he/she is. Alberto’s op-ed piece in today’s Washington Post is a case in point: he comes out sounding guilty whether he is or is not. Shakespeare would say: I think thou doth protest too much.

Posted by: Allen at April 15, 2007 12:18 PM
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Allen,
Well said. This strange scandal started with Sampson & Gonzales telling bald faced lies about the reasons for firing the USAs, and the process behind it. The Republican USAs did not react well to the public announcements that they were poor performers, and given the powerful Republican patronage which put them into the position in the first place, some Republicans will not lift a finger for Gonzales. The Democrats decided to go on a fishing expedition, and marlins started jumping into the boat! It is a strange scandal, because it is so utterly self-inflicted. And everytime the Democrats push, a chain reaction of unseemly activities are revealed- unseemly, if not downright illegal. Personally, I found the statement by the former Senior Council for Gonzales, Monica Goodling, one of the most amazing things of all. She stated she would take the 5th amendment, so that she could not be forced to testify against herself for a crime. Hoo boy! That is some mighty fine lawyering, Monica! And five million e-mails missing? Say WHAT?!! Short of physically destroying the servers, or very intentionally wiping them, it is nearly impossible for e-mails to go “missing.”

Well, Gonzales testifies Tuesday. Like you said, one would think simply telling the unvarnished truth under oath would be his best strategy. Unfortunately, if crimes have been committed, telling the truth would result in a lot of trouble; hence, the telling of lies in the first place.

Posted by: phx8 at April 15, 2007 12:41 PM
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Juan, they voted in November. That is why Republicans were routed.

Posted by: David R. Remer at April 15, 2007 2:42 PM
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David,

Oh come on now!!! You reference info from a comedien who takes pot shots at anyone who disagrees with his almighty position. I thought this blog was supposed to have enlightened dialogue. Bill Maher??? Give me a break.

Posted by: wkw at April 16, 2007 9:53 AM
Comment #216790

wkw: Well regarding Pat Robertson/Regent University/graduates in the Bush administration:

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:JBb_IR-fNWMJ:www.regent.edu/general/about_us/facts.cfm+regent+university+bush+administration&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us

Now the above link takes you to the cached webpage of Regent. Since the scandal broke, Regent removed the reference to 150 grads in the Bush administration. Isn’t that nice!

Here’s the “revised” version:

http://www.regent.edu/general/about_us/facts.cfm

In other words, you owe Bill Maher and David an apology, now that I have provided you with “enlightened dialogue.”

Posted by: Alan at April 16, 2007 12:22 PM
Comment #216791

It would probably be prudent to begin considering the possible successor to Alberto. It seems to me that John Danforth, Republican of Missouri, former Missouri AG & Governor, U.S. Senator, Offfice of Special Counsel, Envoy to Sudan, and permanent representive to the U.N. As a priest, he officiated at the funeral of Ronald Reagan. Well respected by Republicans and Democrats, he would receive easy confirmation from the Senate and bring integrity and competence to the DOJ.

Posted by: Allen at April 16, 2007 12:27 PM
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Allen,

While Jack Danforth is well-respected, I think he might be too old at 70 to be considered.

Also, he’s not a conservative idealogue, so I don’t think Bush would consider him.

Too bad.

Posted by: LawnBoy at April 16, 2007 12:35 PM
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allen,

Apologize??? For what. Your link provides no info that Pat Robertson was selecting employees for jobs at the White House. It says that 150 graduates serve in the Bush Administration. Maybe you should read what I criticized before offering any “help”.

Posted by: wkw at April 16, 2007 12:46 PM
Comment #216805

wkw: Perhaps, you should do your homework and do some googling. Perhaps, you should read the Regent website. Be assured, I have read every word of what you have written. Sorry, you are 0-3.

LawnBoy: You may be right. However, do you really think that Dubya with approval ratings in the gutter wants a loosing fight over an AG nomination? The new reality in the Senate is that no member of the Texas Mafia will be confirmed nor no Bushie idealogue. And do not discount the low esteem that he is held by his own GOP colleagues. And a recess appointment will only result in someone serving without pay. The recent recess appointment of Sam Fox is an example as the FY2008 budget prohibits the payment of a salary to an unconfirmed ambassador to Belgium.

Posted by: Allen at April 16, 2007 1:12 PM
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phx8, my thoughts exactly. This whole thing has been so entirely self-inflicted. Indeed, it’s become quite the tragicomedy!

Question: Is this the death-knell tolling for Torquemada Gonzales?:

Conservatives to Bush: Fire Gonzales”

In what could prove an embarrassing new setback for embattled Attorney General Alberto Gonzales on the eve of his testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee, a group of influential conservatives and longtime Bush supporters has written a letter to the White House to call for his resignation.

The two-page letter, written on stationery of the American Freedom Agenda, a recently formed body designed to promote conservative legal principles, is blunt. Addressed to both Bush and Gonzales, it goes well beyond the U.S. attorneys controversy and details other alleged failings by Gonzales. “Mr. Gonzales has presided over an unprecedented crippling of the Constitution’s time-honored checks and balances,” it declares. “He has brought rule of law into disrepute, and debased honesty as the coin of the realm.” Alluding to ongoing scandal, it notes: “He has engendered the suspicion that partisan politics trumps evenhanded law enforcement in the Department of Justice.”

The letter concludes by saying, “Attorney General Gonzales has proven an unsuitable steward of the law and should resign for the good of the country… The President should accept the resignation, and set a standard to which the wise and honest might repair in nominating a successor…” It is the first public demand by a group of conservatives for Gonzales’ firing. Signatories to the letter include Bruce Fein, a former senior official in the Reagan Justice Department, who has worked frequently with current Administration and the Republican National Committee to promote Bush’s court nominees; David Keene, chairman of the influential American Conservative Union, one of the nation’s oldest and largest grassroots conservative groups, Richard Viguerie, a well-known GOP direct mail expert and fundraiser, Bob Barr, the former Republican congressman from Georgia and free speech advocate, as well as John Whitehead, head of the Rutherford Institute, a conservative non-forit active in fighting for what it calls religious freedoms.

Link to the letter:
“An Unsuitable Steward of the Law”“

Posted by: Adrienne at April 16, 2007 3:53 PM
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wkw said: “Apologize??? For what. Your link provides no info that Pat Robertson was selecting employees for jobs at the White House.”

Who said Pat Roberston selected them to serve? Now your comment creates a strawman, unless I overlooked someone else’s statement. Everyone knows they serve at the pleasure of the President, not Pat Robertson.

It is a sign of maturity and graciousness to admit when one misjudged others who were proved right in their statements against a thinly veiled attempt at insult at the supposed left. Here is an opportunity to reveal just how ‘right’ a double entendre can be.

Posted by: David R. Remer at April 18, 2007 7:41 AM
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