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Democrats Are on the March

Democrats are on the march in January. Immediately after the year-end holiday season, on Thursday, January 4, 2007, the new Speaker-to-be Nancy Pelosi plans to keep the House in session throughout January in order to get a good head start in enacting the legislative priorities in The First 100 Hour program.

According to Marc Sandalow:

Speaker-to-be Nancy Pelosi will open the House for the first session of the 110th Congress on January 4, and keep it in session for the first several weeks of January.

So, you say, what's so wonderful about this? Well, usually the House gets organized and goes home. It returns at the end of January to hear the president present the State of the Union message, and then the lawmakers get to work. Pelosi says there is no point in wasting this time. The Democrats plan to work in order to get things done.

Furthermore, Pelosi plans to set a new tone, a tone of inclusiveness, honesty, civility and fairness. She wants to do this as soon as possible, before the Republicans mount their attack horses.

And before President Bush's State of the Union. Democrats will set the agenda for Congress, not the President. The President and the Republicans have had their chance and they have miffed it badly. Everybody is waiting to see what the Democrats will do. The Democrats may have legislation ready to be signed or vetoed by the time the President makes his big speech.

With regard to Iraq, the question will no longer be whether the Democrats should cooperate with the "stay the course" Republicans, but whether the Republicans will cooperate with the "plan for exit" Democrats. With regard to domestic issues, the question will no longer be whether Democrats should follow "business first" Republicans, but whether Republicans will follow "workers-and-businesses-together" Democrats.

I love this move by Pelosi. It shows leadership, something that has been missing from Congress for a long time. With one simple move she gets Democrats on the march from the very beginning.

Posted by Paul Siegel at November 22, 2006 4:52 PM
Comments
Comment #196248

-Paul- Excellent post paul, I agree an surely do hope
all these things come to fruition.

Posted by: -DAVID- at November 22, 2006 6:21 PM
Comment #196257

I agree on front loading their agenda. Let’s get rolling on the new direction discussed so heavily leading up to the election. The more done early, the less we have to worry about the Presidential election becoming a factor in legislative issues and national direction.

Posted by: Edge at November 22, 2006 7:57 PM
Comment #196269

“Furthermore, Pelosi plans to set a new tone, a tone of inclusiveness, honesty, civility and fairness.”

What for? Tell me she hasn’t forgotten the troglodytes, bottom feeders and ideologues that populate the GOP, and that “inclusiveness and honesty” is casting pearls before swine. Literally.

I think she ought to show up on Capitol Hill in January with an oversized baseball bat and start cracking heads. Only centrist Dems, after having their collective throats cut by neo-con thugs like Delay and Roberts and Cheney for the past six years (and longer), could possibly worry about civility. “I’m so sorry, did I hurt your feelings?” Here, have a basball bat up your ass!

And I think it’s a very bad sign. Republicans don’t understand civility—they only understand fear and power. I think the Dems ought to give it to them—in a way they won’t forget.

Politics is a ‘give-no-quarter’ business, and payback is long overdue by the Dems. You want the American people to think you’re strong on defense? Blow away a few GOP ass-kissers and Bush worshippers. It’s the only language they understand.


So much for governing from the center.

Posted by: Tim Crow at November 22, 2006 10:22 PM
Comment #196272


Tim: Do we want to send the impression to the American people that we are every bit the troglodytes that the Republicans. I think Pelosi is setting them up. They are not going to agree with most of what the Democrats want to do and they will do whatever they can to obstruct. The Democrats can say that we tried to include them but they only want to obstruct important legislation that the people want us to pass. This will help the people see the Republicans for what they are.

Posted by: jlw at November 22, 2006 10:52 PM
Comment #196273

jlw:

“They [Republicans] are not going to agree with most of what the Democrats want to do and they will do whatever they can to obstruct. This will help the people see the Republicans for what they are.”

Wow, I never thought of that! You mean, like, place the Repubs in such a position that they look like obstructionist, stone-walling, Constitution-trashing thugs?

Please. What do you think has been transpiring for the last twelve years under the guise of ‘governence’? If the morons known collectively as ‘the American people’ haven’t gotten a clue by now, Pelosi, Reid, Emanual, Hoyer and the rest aren’t going to provide it for them.

“But, Tim…what about this past election? Aren’t the voters coming around?”

There is no doubt the American voter is disappointed. They’re miffed at this loser-of-a-war in Iraq, they think there are too many fags in Congress, and that the whole shebang is corrupt. The country’s priorities are really screwed up.

So, who are the ‘boys playing on Turkey Day?

Posted by: Tim Crow at November 22, 2006 11:05 PM
Comment #196277

The Dems and Pelosi want to set up shop early, no doubt, to send out the hundreds of subpeonas for their oversight hearings, which are really going to be political witch hunts that they have placed at the top of their agenda. Tim Crow has it right! It is what is expected from most of the base of the Democratic Party. The Democratic leadership is fully expected to come in with ball bats and go after Bush & Company. They promised this in their campaigns. They also promised our boys out of Iraq in four to six months, but now that doesn’t appear likely to happen since Murtha just got the boot, and Levin is being ridiculed by many. Most Democrats want G. W. Bush taken down, period! They think it is their payback time for Clinton. If this happens, the Dems Pelosi is only one weak heart beat away from the White House. To Republicans that is an incredibly scary thought. I believe that Tim Crow is much more the typical Democrat voice at this time.

JD

Posted by: JD at November 22, 2006 11:46 PM
Comment #196280

I hope the Dems can do something positive. I doubt they will accomplish much.

Posted by: Jack at November 22, 2006 11:52 PM
Comment #196292
I doubt they will accomplish much.

Spoken like a true Republican, Jack. Sounds like you’re following all that the GOP leaders are doing to obstruct the next Congress.

Republicans vacating the Capitol are dumping a big spring cleaning job on Democrats moving in.

…The bulging workload that a Republican-led Congress was supposed to complete this year but is instead punting to 2007 promises to consume time and energy that Democrats had hoped to devote to their own agenda…

Driving the decision to quit and go home rather than finish the remaining budget work is a determined effort by a group of conservative Republicans to prevent putting a GOP stamp on spending bills covering 13 Cabinet Departments - and loaded with thousands of homestate projects derided as “pork” by critics…

“The last thing Republicans need is an end-of-Congress spending spree as our last parting shot as we walk out the door,” said DeMint spokesman Wesley Denton.

Some Republicans also look forward to using unfinished budget work to gum up an early Democratic agenda that includes raising the minimum wage, negotiating lower drug prices for Medicare beneficiaries, cutting interest rates on college loans and repealing some tax breaks for oil companies.

“Other stuff may get pushed off the table,” said GOP lobbyist Hazen Marshall, a former longtime Capitol Hill aide. “It kills (Democrats’) message.”

The people have spoken, but Republicans are nothing but a bunch of dirty obstructionists.

Posted by: American Pundit at November 23, 2006 3:10 AM
Comment #196308

Come on boys. Say it. “Madam Speaker” or “Speaker Pelosi.” Say it slowly at first and form the words carefully. After a while you’ll be able to say it and not retch.

It won’t hurtcha. Come on be a big boy and take your medicine.

Posted by: tex at November 23, 2006 10:10 AM
Comment #196311

It is sad that writers on this blog are not following the Democrat Party line that got members elected. I seem to recall most D candidates running toward the center and getting elected on issues of fairness, civility, working for the people, doing what’s right, ending bitterness and divisevness, etc. Were the American voters fooled again? Were these just empty promises? How will all the Dem anger expressed by you folks play in 2008?

Posted by: Jim at November 23, 2006 10:35 AM
Comment #196312


Jack may be right. It will be hard to accomplish a lot. The Republicans will obstruct and the President will suddenly discover is veto pen.

On the other hand, the President should know by now that his position in historic terms is looking very bad. He may want to ignore the Republicans and work with the Democrats to try and improve his image. I tend to doubt this because so far, he hasn’t shown much capacity to think.

Posted by: jlw at November 23, 2006 10:46 AM
Comment #196339

Jim,

The Democratic Party line does not come from the conservative Dems that gained the House and Senate. The Leadership is still the same, and from them came the utter hatred for Bush. The Leadership did not move to the center. The Leadership, like Kerry, was placed in a locked closet for the last two weeks of the election to try to get them to shut up! This is how Barack Obama gained all of the attention from the Press. He was the only Dem out there saying anything, so the Press naturally took it that he is the new front-runner for 2008.

JD

Posted by: JD at November 23, 2006 3:23 PM
Comment #196345

The very people who are the source of the bitterness, divisiveness and incivility are now saying we need to end the bitterness, divisiveness and incivility.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Democrat definition of bipartisanship-Republicans cave in to all their demands without a fight.

Posted by: traveller, at November 23, 2006 6:02 PM
Comment #196348

Paul, I will believe it when I see it. Once a politican always a politican.

Posted by: KT at November 23, 2006 7:10 PM
Comment #196352


Traveller: What do you think about the Dennis Hastert rule that has prevailed in the House since he has been Speaker. No bill will go to the House floor for debate and a vote until he is sure he has the republican votes cut off debate and pass it. That was the Republican idea of bipartisanship. Did you know that Hastert bragged that nothing goes on in the House that he doesn’t know about? As to the corruption that was going on and Foleygate he now says I Know Nothing. Come to think of it, he does look like Sgt. Schultz only fatter.

Posted by: jlw at November 23, 2006 8:18 PM
Comment #196360

This is hilarious…

Now, it’s the Reps turn to act like the Dems have for the last 6 years and Dems don’t like it.

I hope the new leadership talks and acts just like they have been doing…

Posted by: cliff at November 24, 2006 5:26 AM
Comment #196370

JD
I hope that among other things, like the work of the 109th they decided to leave behind, the corruption of the 109th and the Administration is a target for the new leadership. We asked for it by voting the bums out. Remember even gridlock is better than what has happened the past 6 years.

Posted by: j2t2 at November 24, 2006 10:31 AM
Comment #196393

Nancy Pelosi has already showed herself to be the weakest and most divisive Speaker in living memory, so the more she hogs the limelight the better… for Republicans.

Posted by: Loyal Opposition at November 24, 2006 9:23 PM
Comment #196395
The very people who are the source of the bitterness, divisiveness and incivility are now saying we need to end the bitterness, divisiveness and incivility.

Really? I haven’t heard Republicas say that. In fact, they’re vowing to ostruct the people’s business in Congress.

Posted by: American Pundit at November 24, 2006 10:01 PM
Comment #196406

It is surprising just how intimidated our rightwingnut trolls seem to be of an intelliget,asertive woman. Does that mean they do not respect their mothers or,perhaps she was domineering? Any shrinks out there that might have an answer?
Interesting they seemed to have toned down the “SF leftwing nutcase” stuff. I had a feeling they would have a hard time demonizing a Roman Catholic Italian grandmother.

Posted by: BillS at November 25, 2006 3:06 AM
Comment #196407

JD: The relatively few seats the Dems won from the Reps,although generally but not exclusivlyare more “conservative” on some issues they are indeed Democrats. They also are a minority in the center left coalition that is the Democartic majority.
One very loud message from the election was that Americans want results,not b.s. and gridlock. The Dems heard this. Hopfully some on the other side heard it also but the re-instatement of Lott does not bode well. One weakness in American democracy is the way it often works is that the centrist candidates fall victum to mood swings of the public simply because they represent centrist districts. This has left more far right Reps in the new minority. This will probably make it more difficult to work together to solve the nations problems . If they refuse to work with the Dems,mark my words,Rep loyalist will look back fondly to the 2006 mid-tern election. The Reps will fade into political obscurity. The people are watching.

Posted by: BillS at November 25, 2006 3:34 AM
Comment #196422

—BillS— I would love to comment on their mental
status, but I might get banished again! I can
say that our Republican friends and just plain
spinmeisters (or just plain old instigators) or
people who will argue, with out cause just because
they can do it, with little, or no impunity! An
unanswered attack is sometimes the most effective
approach.

Posted by: DAVID at November 25, 2006 11:01 AM
Comment #196452

jlw,
Plug a Dems name into your question and it’s just as valid. Neither party acts for the good of the country. They both lust for power and the people be damned.

cliff,
I agree. I’m an officer in a labor union so I hear a lot of nonsense about how the Dems are going to save the world. I really find it quite comical. Being an independent and regarding both parties with contempt makes it much easier to see what a collection of unprincipled boobs they both are. I’ve been laughing like hell since the election. It’s going to be fun watching people self destruct.

AP,
You been under a rock the past six years? Haven’t you heard the venom spouting from the Dems mouths?

Posted by: traveller at November 25, 2006 7:45 PM
Comment #196460

Umm… Nope. Sorry, Traveller. Republicans are far worse with the venom spouting.

Posted by: American Pundit at November 25, 2006 11:58 PM
Comment #196465

AP,
The shrill litany of hate we’ve been listening to for the past 6 years hasn’t been coming from the Reps.
Look in the archives of WatchBlog and you’ll find an unending stream of invective directed at anyone and everyone on the right coming from the left.
Rep politicians aren’t the ones who’ve been expressing personal hatred toward their opponents, but Dem politicians haven’t been at all shy about doing it, especially when the target is Bush.
Oh, wait. I forgot. It’s the Democrats we’re talking about. Those righteous avatars of enlightenment, so morally and intellectually superior to the ignorant beasts who populate the right side of the political spectrum. There is no way they could stoop so low as to “spout venom” at their opponents. It must be righteous indignation at the immoral monsters who want to starve children and old people and take America back to the middle ages.

Posted by: traveller at November 26, 2006 1:14 AM
Comment #196478

Paul Siegel,

You sound hopeful, and I’m reluctant to rain on your parade, but you may not want to set yourself up for a big dissappointment. Congress, most likely, will continue to ignore the nation’s most important issues. Even if all the items on Pelosi’s first 100 hour strategy are passed, it will help actually prove that Congress is still not at all serious about real reforms.

Nancy Pelosi’s first 100 hour strategy is supposedly to:

  • (1) Toughen House Ethics Rules (very unlikely; besides, laws are meaningless if never enforced; and even if ever convicted, they can get a presidential pardon like the 546 criminals pardoned by Clinton; 140 on his last day in office)

  • (2) Raise the Minimum Wage (But still ignore illegal immigration and wide open borders and ports?)

  • (3) Enact 9/11 Commission Recommendations (But still ignore wide open borders and ports?)

  • (4) Half Student Loan Interest rates (But ignore inflation and a fiat-funny-money system?)

  • (5) Broaden Federally-Supported Stem Cell Research (Sure, why not? Just print some more money.)

  • (5) Negotiate for Lower Medicare Drug Prices (Sure, why not? But still carry the water for their big money donors? And what about healthcare that is not only increasingly unaffordable, but dangerous too! Pharmaceutical corporations and the FDA are becoming pill pushers that are killing hundreds of thousands in the U.S. (annually). 2.2 million hospitalized patients in 1994 had serious Adverse Drug Reactions (ADRs) and 106,000 were fatal, making these ADRs the 5th or 6th leading cause of death in the U.S.! On 27-July-2004, HealthGrades.com reported that “An average of 195,000 people in the U.S. died due to potentially preventable, in-hospital medical errors in each of the years 2000, 2001 and 2002, according to a new study of 37 million patient records”. Part of the problem is government is FOR-SALE, and the growing corpocrisy, corporatism, and influence of government by corporations and some that abuse vast amounts of money to control government. While government is NOT responsible for providing universal healthcare, it is responsible for protecting consumers from some greedy corporations that will do almost anything for profit).

Time will show.
How likely is real reform when 90% of incumbents are still in Congress?

You and many Democrats sound optimistic and hopeful that this 110th Congress will be different.

But, does there now sound like there’s a hint of caution and/or uncertainty in their words?

It simply does NOT make any sense that Congress will suddenly become responsible now, after decades of irresponsibility, pork-barrel, waste, graft, peddling influence, etc., etc., etc.

  • Merely raising the minimum wage won’t prove anything. Especially since Congress will still refuse to address illegal immigration, which will continue to depresses wages and burden our schools, hospitals, ERs, prisons, law enforcement, Medicaid, welfare, healthcare, insurance, unemployment (2.3 million displaced workers), and voting systems (costing U.S. tax payers net losses of over $70 billion or more, annually). It’s a joke to raise minimum wages and pretend Homeland Security is important when our borders and ports are still wide open. What good is a minimum wage if employers can still get cheap labor by the tens of millions. In fact, it wouldn’t surprise me if Demcrats pass an amnesty, and quadruple the problem like that amnesty of 1986. Also, Democrats want to let illegal aliens participate in Social Security. That will be wonderful for a system that is already facing looming shortages, and Congress is still plundering the surpluses.
  • The pork-barrel, waste, graft and corporate welfare will continue. BTW, Democrats are by far the largest pork-barrel spenders. Just mosey over to cagw.org to see for yourself.
  • The government and the Fed will continue to print too much money. This is like playing Monopoly in which one player can print money. Before long, that player owns everything, and everyone else is deep in debt (as evidenced by the nation swimming in debt … now about $42 trillion or more). The banks print money, try to lend it to everyone and their dog, then confiscate real assets for money printed out of thin air; money that is quickly losing value (at only 4.5% inflation, $100 becomes $81.75 in only 5 years). Inflation is another contributing factor to falling median incomes. People do not realize how harmful on 3% or 4% inflation can be (much less double-digit inflation as occurred in the 1980s).
  • The National Debt will not be significantly reduced (if any at all). In fact, it may continue to grow ever larger, as does government, to nightmarish proportions. As debt increases, it increases the pressure to reduce it by printing more money, which leads to more inflation. We’ve been brainwashed to think 3% or 4% inflation is OK. It isn’t. It is like a tax. It hammers the poor who can afford it the least; who are on fixed incomes and meager retirement savings that are slowing being eroded away.
  • Congress will continue to spend the Social Security surpluses.
  • The politicians will continue to sell out the American workers.
  • Median incomes will remain stagnant because the massive debt, borrowing, government spending, waste, and money-printing will continue.
  • Governments will continue to undermine public education by funneling money into private education.
  • The government will still be FOR-SALE, because Congress will NEVER voluntarily pass any ethics reforms that may even remotely reduce their power, opportunities for self-gain, or the security of their incumbencies. ONLY the voters can accomplish that (if ever), but it won’t happen by continually re-electing irresponsible incumbent politicians and wallowing in the powerfully distracting, circular, petty, partisan warfare. 83% of all money ($2.0 billion of $2.4 billion in 2002) from political federal campaign contributions (of $200 or more) come from a mere 0.15% of all 200 million eligible voters.

While taking the Republicans down a couple of notches was very badly needed, we still don’t have what we really need, because 90% of incumbents were still re-elected, and the next two years will most likely prove it.

Congress will continue to ignore most (if not all) of the nation’s pressing problems, allowing them to grow in number and severity, inching us closer and closer to our education that we seem destined to learn the hard way.

Paul Siegel,
It would be wonderful (perhaps even a miracle?) if you are right, and Congress actually proves to be different, but it is extremely unlikely. You may see a few things happen to give the appearance of change, but Congress will continue to be FOR-SALE, bought-and-paid-for, look-the-other-way, and irresponsible.

Posted by: d.a.n at November 26, 2006 10:31 AM
Comment #196498

-d.a.n.- Excellent post! I believe most Americans,
woke from a living night Maire some three or four months before this last election, an saw that all
the bad politicians were not just in other States!
As we saw the end results with all but a few, made
serious changes. I am sure the old politicians are
taking steps, to avoid the same type of departure
in the next two elections, for not changing, will be
at their own Pearl.

Posted by: DAVID at November 26, 2006 3:20 PM
Comment #196503

DAVID,

Thanks. Hopefully, politicians will truly reform, but there really were not nearly enough incumbents removed to get the message across, since 90% of incumbents retained their cu$hy, coveted seats of power.

It’s quite likely they will be like kids in a candy store in no time at all. If they did, they would finally pass some no-brainer, common-sense reforms immediately.

But, instead, they cooked up some items on Pelosi’s First-100-Hour strategy that are more about symbolism than truly solving problems, since each item still ignores the most important contributing factors.

For example, raising the minimum wage and enacting the 9/11 commission recommendations is hypocritical when Congress chooses to continue to ignore existing laws and by ignoring wide open borders and ports, employers of illegal aliens, 2.3 million displaced American workers, the many burdens on schools, hospitals, ERs, law enforcement, border patrol, prisons, healthcare, CDC, Medicaid, welfare, insurance and voting systems, resulting in over $70 billion in net losses annually to U.S. tax payers.

So, if Congress still ignores existing laws, why should we believe they will will enforce new laws?

But, perhaps voters will be more enlightened by 2008 ? Their education is in the pipeline. Hopefully, it won’t have to be the hard way, but time may be running out.

Posted by: d.a.n at November 26, 2006 4:53 PM
Comment #196540
The shrill litany of hate we’ve been listening to for the past 6 years hasn’t been coming from the Reps.

Yes, it has.

d.a.n,

(1) besides, laws are meaningless if never enforced…

They’re Congressional rules, not laws. Nobody’d go to jail for accepting a dinner from a lobbiest, though if it were proven to be quid-pro-quo they’d be forced out of office.

(2) But still ignore illegal immigration…

The only ones ignoring illegal immigration was the Republicans who couldn’t get their act together on a response.

(3) But still ignore wide open borders and ports?

Don’t know why you’d think that. The Dem’s most basic criticism is that Reps have ignored and underfunded port and border security. I suspect we’ll see comprehensive immigration reform (though, you personally might not like it), better first responder support and more port security (don’t forget, it was Democrats who blew the whistle on the Dubai port takeover).

I fully understand the skepticism and, as Jack points out, it’s going to be hard for Democrats to overcome the obstructions Republicans have vowed to make (I guess Reps can’t afford to allow Dems to be more effective), but I’m taking a wait and see attitude. Who knows, they might surprise us. :)

Posted by: American Pundit at November 27, 2006 12:15 AM
Comment #196551

AP,
Those partisan blinders you wear certainly are effective. Not only do you refuse to admit the truth when you get caught in a bald faced lie, you deny the truth when it’s all around you.
What a strange world you must live in.

Posted by: traveller at November 27, 2006 7:52 AM
Comment #196554
American Pundit wrote: The only ones ignoring illegal immigration was the Republicans …

Yeah right. Still wearing those partisan blinders, eh?
Nevermind that most Democrats voted to give Social Security benefits to illegal aliens.
What does that tell you?

The fact is, NEITHER Democrats or Republicans are serious about securing the borders and ports, or stopping illegal immigration.
But, blaming it on the OTHER party is always convenient.
So, what’s new?

American Pundit wrote: I’m taking a wait and see attitude. Who knows, they might surprise us. :)
Yes, let’s wait and see. I’d wager we will very likely see more of the same. It’s funny how voters of THEIR party believe THEIR politicians will suddenly become responsible and accountable.

It really doesn’t matter which party anyone thinks is responsible, since BOTH are bought-and-paid-for, look-the-other-way, irresponsible incumbent politicians, and they will most likely still fail to make a dent in the growing list of the nation’s most important issues.

Congress is still the same place where good ideas and insincere intentions go to die in a sea of corruption, blatant influence peddling, graft, pork-barrel, waste, and look-the-other-way, bought-and-paid-for incumbent politicians.

Yes, let’s wait and see.
But, don’t get your hopes up.
The OUT-Party and the IN-Party are merely doing what they have been doing for a long time: taking turns refusing any reforms that may even remotely reduce the politicians’ power, opportunites for self-gain, and the security of their cu$hy, coveted incumbencies.

American Pundit wrote: They’re Congressional rules, not laws. Nobody’d go to jail for accepting a dinner from a lobbiest, though if it were proven to be quid-pro-quo they’d be forced out of office.
A.P., Bribery is illegal, and might result in more than mere removal from office. Just ask Randy “Duke” Cunningham, who pleaded guilty to taking cash and gifts totaling more than $2.4 million from defense contractors (that he then tried to specifically help obtain defense contracts). Illegal gratuities (especially if substantial), and of a quid pro quo nature are illegal.

However, proving bribery it is difficult, which is why it is so rampant, and why Congress is so rotten to the core, and it is every unlikely they will pass any reforms that reduce their opportunities for self-gain.

Unfortunately, few are held accountable, and, Nancy Pelosi’s first 100 hour strategy is supposedly to (1) Toughen House Ethics Rules.
That will be mere nonsense, since rules/laws are meaningless if never enforced; and even if ever convicted, they can get a presidential pardon like the 546 criminals pardoned by Clinton (140 on his last day in office).

Already, there is a strong hint that Pelosi’s First-100-Hour-Strategy is mere symbolism, since (2)raising the minimum wage and (3)enacting the 9/11 commission recommendations is hypocritical if Congress still ignores existing laws by ignoring wide open borders and ports, employers of illegal aliens, 2.3 million displaced American workers, the many burdens on schools, hospitals, ERs, law enforcement, border patrol, prisons, healthcare, CDC, Medicaid, welfare, insurance and voting systems, resulting in over $70 billion in net losses annually to U.S. tax payers.

Posted by: d.a.n at November 27, 2006 9:50 AM
Comment #196582

“Come on boys. Say it. “Madam Speaker” or “Speaker Pelosi.” Say it slowly at first and form the words carefully”

I think “comrade” would be the best way to address the old bag.

Posted by: kctim at November 27, 2006 5:12 PM
Comment #196598
Those partisan blinders you wear certainly are effective.

Right back at you, traveller. Look at the hateful tone kctim just took refering to Speaker Pelosi. And I can’t think of anything more hateful than President Bush saying that a win for Democrats is a victory for terrorists.

I’m not sure what world you live on where Republicans are civil, but it’s not planet Earth.

Nevermind that most Democrats voted to give Social Security benefits to illegal aliens. What does that tell you?

That you’re ill informed. Seriously, that’s the first I’ve ever heard of that, d.a.n. Can you give me your source?

A.P., Bribery is illegal

Of course. Bribery is already illegal. You were talking about the Democrat’s 100 hour plan for more transparency, less money-for-access, and tightining the rules for gifts and dinners. Those are (will be) Congressional rules, not laws.

Posted by: American Pundit at November 27, 2006 6:38 PM
Comment #196608
American Pundit wrote: That you’re ill informed. Seriously, that’s the first I’ve ever heard of that, d.a.n. Can you give me your source?

American Pundit,
Who is ill informed?
38 Senators of the 50 Senators that voted YES were Democrats.
Fortunately, the BILL was defeated.

The Immigration Reform bill would allow people to qualify for social security based on work they did while they were illegally present in the U.S. and illegally working in the U.S. People who broke the law to come here and broke the law to work here can benefit from their conduct to collect social security.

The following VOTED YES on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security (May 2006):
Alaska: Stevens (R-AK)
Arizona: McCain (R-AZ)
Arkansas: Lincoln (D-AR)
Arkansas: Pryor (D-AR)
California: Boxer (D-CA)
California: Feinstein (D-CA)
Colorado: Salazar (D-CO)
Connecticut: Dodd (D-CT)
Connecticut: Lieberman (D-CT)
Delaware: Biden (D-DE)
Delaware: Carper (D-DE)
Florida: Martinez (R-FL)
Hawaii: Akaka (D-HI)
Hawaii: Inouye (D-HI)
Illinois: Durbin (D-IL)
Illinois: Obama (D-IL)
Indiana: Bayh (D-IN)
Indiana: Lugar (R-IN)
Iowa: Harkin (D-IA)
Kansas: Brownback (R-KS)
Louisiana: Landrieu (D-LA)
Maryland: Mikulski (D-MD)
Maryland: Sarbanes (D-MD)
Massachusetts: Kennedy (D-MA)
Massachusetts: Kerry (D-MA)
Michigan: Levin (D-MI)
Michigan: Stabenow (D-MI)
Montana: Baucus (D-MT)
Nebraska: Hagel (R-NE)
Nevada: Reid (D-NV)
New Jersey: Lautenberg (D-NJ)
New Jersey: Menendez (D-NJ)
New Mexico: Bingaman (D-NM)
New York: Clinton (D-NY)
New York: Schumer (D-NY)
North Dakota: Dorgan (D-ND)
Ohio: DeWine (R-OH)
Ohio: Voinovich (R-OH)
Oregon: Wyden (D-OR)
Pennsylvania: Specter (R-PA)
Rhode Island: Chafee (R-RI)
Rhode Island: Reed (D-RI)
South Carolina: Graham (R-SC)
South Dakota: Johnson (D-SD)
Vermont: Jeffords (I-VT)
Vermont: Leahy (D-VT)
Washington: Cantwell (D-WA)
Washington: Murray (D-WA)
West Virginia: Rockefeller (D-WV) no-vote
Wisconsin: Feingold (D-WI)
Wisconsin: Kohl (D-WI)

Posted by: d.a.n at November 27, 2006 8:15 PM
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American Pundit,

Go to OnTheIssues.org to see more Democrats that support giving Social Security benefits to illegal aliens.

BTW, What good does it do to raise the minimum wage but still refuse to enforce existing illegal immigration laws that displace an estimated 2.3 million American workers, that depress wages, 55% don’t pay income taxes, and burden our education, healthcare, hospital, ER, CDC, law enforcement, border patrol, prison, welfare, Medicaid, and voting systems, costing American tax payers over $70 billion per year in net losses?

If politicians really want to prove they are serious about reforms, why not enforce the EXISTING laws?

And, how hypocritical is it to pretend the 9/11 Commission Recommendations and Homeland Security is important when the borders and ports are wide-open.

Neither party will do anything about this. They’ll try to make it look like they’re doing something, but we will still end up with nothing, but a growing list of ignored issues

And, I’m not taking sides with Republicans or Democrats. This isn’t a partisan issue, and two years from now, when nothing has been accomplished, it won’t be sufficient to simply blame it on the new OUT-PARTY (Republicans).

Posted by: d.a.n at November 27, 2006 8:29 PM
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So, in the first 100 hours Nancy will take a strong stand on her “we have no Iraq plan”, Wont fix social security, wont enact a new, balanced budget, wont fix Medicare, wont eliminate ear-marks, wont develop national health care.

And when the 100 hours are over what will you have? New sending of the governments and of business money? Larger deficits?

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss…no plan to fix the real problems….just pass out money on the edge hoping to get more votes in 08.

Hey, and how about that Harry Reid and his one million dollar property deal! The democratic party leader of the Senate sure knows how to influence peddle his way to wealth and have a good Christmas. Is Democratic party coruption better than Republican party corruption?

Posted by: Stephen at November 28, 2006 6:58 AM
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Stephen wrote: Is Democratic party coruption better than Republican party corruption?
Nope. There are minor differences, but for the most part, BOTH parties are pretty much the same. BOTH parties are irresponsible and will still refuse to pass any badly-needed, no-brainer, common-sense reforms. They will put on a show, but what ever is passed will fall short of actually solving the problems, and that is because they really have NO intentions of really sovling any problems. They will merely chip away at the edges of the problems without ever addressing the root problem, which is government is FOR-SALE, corrupt, and lacks transparency and accountability. Most everything is futile as long as Congress is so corrupt, and it’s unlikely Congress will ever reform itself, or enforce any rules or laws that would even remotely reduce their power, opportunities for self-gain, or the security of their incumbencies. No, only the voters can peacefully force change, but they won’t ever accomplish it by re-electing, rewarding, and empowering irresponsible incumbent politicians.

For example, Pelosi’s First-100-Hour Plan would raise the minimum wage and enact 9/11 Commission Recommendations, but still refuse to secure the borders and ports, or enforce existing immigration laws, allowing tens of millions of illegal aliens to depress wages, place vast burdents on our systems, avoid income taxes, and displace U.S. workers.

And, your right … where is Iraq on that list?

Personally, I think it is a despicable misuse of our troops to baby-sit Iraq’s civil war.
Iraq has had plenty of time to get their act together.
It’s not about training.
It’s about civil war in a fractious, fractured, dysfunctional nation.
Should our troops be endangered for that?
Iraq is going to have their civil war with, or without us.
After all, who is training the insurgents and disruptors?

The U.S. and its constant meddling and manipulation exacerbated the problems in the middle east (even helped to create Saddam).

The U.S. played Iraq and Iran against each other during the war between Iraq and Iran (giving both intelligence simultaneously so that neither could achieve an advantage).
When Iraq and Iran discovered what the U.S. was doing, they were understandably unhappy about it. Especially Saddam.

It’s ironic now that the U.S. is now upset by Iran’s meddling in the quagmire in Iraq.

It must also be amusing to Iranians that the U.S. is accomplishing what Iran could not achieve for themselves. Ten years of conflict and outright war between Iran and Saddam Hussein’s Iraq was mostly about border area conflicts.

Guess what?

The United States is arranging for the Shiites to have the whole enchilada. Sadaam said it would be “the mother of all wars”. Saddam controlled a fractious and intractable population by killing indiscriminately. Now, Iran is simply rattling its nuclear sword and waiting for the region’s predominantly Shiite population to possibly gain complete control. Being Sunni is bad news. Now the U.S. has created an even BIGGER monster than Sadaam, whom we helped create in the first place. Afterward, Lebanon will be gobbled up and, with Syria (its puppet ally). Iran may even go after Israel? Or maybe Israel will go after Iran first? The powers that the U.S. did not want to see rolling around the mid-east like a loose canon on the deck of a ship, will then be unstoppable until the whole mess quite probably boils over into a massive war. The world may soon be dealing with a fractious mess of a magnitude the world has never seen. Yet, most Americans are unable to see clearly what is happening, and that much of OUR meddling made it that way.

Posted by: d.a.n at November 28, 2006 10:00 AM
Comment #196692

Why do you considered that a hateful tone AP? Was it because I didn’t use such civil words as the Dems? Words like Hitler, racist, chimp in charge, King George or murderer?
Yeah, the Dems really have the old “being civil” market cornered don’t they.

Posted by: kctim at November 28, 2006 12:44 PM
Comment #196778

kctim,
Too much it appears?

Posted by: d.a.n at November 28, 2006 8:14 PM
Comment #196827

kctim,
Use of those words by Democrats isn’t hate because…they’re Democrats.
Your criticism of Pelosi is hate because…she’s a Democrat.
As one of the students who stormed the stage and stopped the leader of the Minutemen from speaking said, “We’re protecting free speech. He isn’t a legitimate part of the debate.”
You, like him, don’t toe the radical leftist line; therefore your speech is hate.

Posted by: traveller at November 29, 2006 7:10 AM
Comment #196931

All kctim said was “old bag”.
Your right Traveller.
What’s the big deal?
I don’t see what’s so bad about that ?

It certainly is not what A.P. tries to characterize as: hateful ?

GGgggeeeshhh … I’ve seen a LOT worse.
At any rate, I can’t wait to see all the wonderous accomplishments by this new 110th Congress now that “Democrats are On the Move”.
Whhooohoooo !

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