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'Culture Of Corruption' Claims More Republicans

Not surprisingly, the Republican manufactured, Fox News disseminated spin following the abrupt departure of the liability that still is Tom DeLay concluded that effectively there also went the Democrat’s best Mid Term election talking point. Putting aside the likely outcome of DeLay’s prominent image featured in DNC TV spots, the Right’s inference that the ‘Culture of Corruption’ eruptions had abated is wishful thinking, willful denial or all of the above.

The guilty verdict (on all counts) today in the corruption trial of former Republican Illinois Gov. George Ryan gives the Democrats fresh ammunition that the GOP is as reckless in their pursuit of power, as they are ruthless in evading the consequences. On a much smaller scale, Ryan's greed mirrors the unseemly culture of influence peddling in Washington that has seen the number of registered lobbyists increase two-fold since 2000. Furthermore, the previous convictions of Gov. Ryan's closest aides (including his Chief of Staff) for participating in the attempted quashing of any investigations suggests another Republican administration adept at political maneuvering - except under the scrutiny that comes with the top job in the state of Illinois.

This was also the culmination of an 8-year investigation that has so far netted 76 convictions in the dubbed 'License For Bribe' scandal. Yet, after a tumultuous 6-month trial that saw the dismissal of two jurors, it was the painstakingly thorough case argued by the prosecutors under the U.S. Attorney for Northern Illinois Patrick Fitzgerald that secured convictions on all counts. This also gives credence to the suspicion that there's a compelling reason that Special Prosecutor Fitzgerald has not yet concluded his Plame investigation, and that an equally solid case against Scooter Libby may elicit even more unwelcome revelations for the White House.

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As the Republicans have Rupert Murdoch's media bullhorn and Conservative talk radio to effectively disseminated their talking points simultaneously and instantly, the comparably smaller engine that this the Liberal and Progressive blogsphere has had to rely on consistent and substantive reporting to spark the interest of their presumed conspirators in the Liberal Media. Right bloggers regularly claim credit for bringing down Dan Rather over 'Memo-gate'. However, these days, it has been the Lefty bloggers that have drawn the scorn of Judi Miller and Joe Lieberman, while doing the Washington Post the embarrassing favor of vetting it's online (now ex) Conservative blogger.

The consistent string of damaging revelations against the Bush administration may suggest a Liberal Media pile on or the cessation of intimidation to report such 'bad news'. Contributing also could be an audience spike of interest that has in addition driven down Bush's approvals. Yet, I would argue that the substantial loss of credibility and inability of the White House and GOP to sustain it's initial spin in response to these disclosures has allowed the convincing criticisms of Bush's detractors to prevail.

Case in point is the developing scandal emerging from the conviction of Republican operatives for 'jamming' union phone banks on Election Day November 2004 in New Hampshire. The New York Times has now picked up the story in light of the dubious connections to the White House and the RNC's Ken Mehlman.

Posted by Bert M. Caradine at April 18, 2006 3:18 AM
Comments
Comment #141380

Well… they are Republicans afterall… what did you expect?

By the way, Redstate’s reaction to their Founder’s unethical behavior is typical for the WingNuts. Any and all discussion that isn’t positive is automatically deleted and all posters banned regardless of the quality of the posts or its relevance.

Makes you grateful the WatchBlog Manager is not a Republican, eh?

Posted by: Aldous at April 18, 2006 4:19 AM
Comment #141381

btw… For those who don’t believe me, go to www.RedState.org and post ANYTHING negative about the GOP or its UnEthical Founder. I swear you will be banned within 12 hours. Being polite, rational or intelligent is meaningless there. Its all a lovefest that gives new meaning to the term “mindless androids”.

Go to www.RedState.org and see the real GOP, their values and principles.

Posted by: Aldous at April 18, 2006 4:30 AM
Comment #141386

Hm, 90% of the U.S. politicians are corrupted and easy to bribe, so what’s your point? You think democrats are saints? Sure, democrats are less worse of the two (out of the Republican and Democratic party), but are still no ‘good guys’.

Posted by: Ouwe at April 18, 2006 5:48 AM
Comment #141394

Ouwe, take your worthless meme elsewhere — it works only on mental midgets.
All corrupt elected officials gotta go! Republican or Democrat, vote them out if they are corrupt.
Leave aside the fact that they are all beholden to corporate interests, because this is how we let the system work. We’ll change that later. Baby steps.

Posted by: Govt Skeptic at April 18, 2006 8:38 AM
Comment #141400

Why should I shut my mouth? Because I speak the truth? But I agree with you; corrupted politicians should be voted away.

Posted by: Ouwe at April 18, 2006 9:13 AM
Comment #141402

Republicans do seem to be self destructing. Amazing. Newt Gingrich is trying to warn them, but it may be too late.

  • Stop Repeat Offenders.

  • Don’t Re-Elect Them !

Posted by: d.a.n at April 18, 2006 9:29 AM
Comment #141405

I know what you mean Aldous. I recall in one of the far-right blogs I posted on, it was never a question of supporting Bush, but HOW MUCH you support Bush and how blindly you would follow him. It was really quite disgusting to be faced with such ignorant and close-minded individuals. I think I was banned in 2 days.

But we can’t allow ourselves to be distracted by fanatics.

I still say that voting out incumbents is not a practical solution.

Posted by: Zeek at April 18, 2006 9:58 AM
Comment #141410

Zeek, that leaves you with voting them back in as a practical solution? Not practical at all, my friend. Not practical at all. Disincentive to do anything different than they have done before.

Posted by: David R. Remer at April 18, 2006 10:18 AM
Comment #141413

Question of the day.Do adult liberals bring their children up to be little liberal cowards?

Posted by: saying at April 18, 2006 11:00 AM
Comment #141415

The ineptness and corruption of seemingly all politicians that make up the two major parties that is typically discussed in this forum leaves only one alternative if we are to reduce and eventually eliminate this vicius cycle. The obvious alternative is to vote out all irresponsible politicians. Join with the folks at VOID voidnow.org> and add to the growing energy and enthusiasm taking place regarding restoration of government responsible to the people.

Posted by: steve smith at April 18, 2006 11:25 AM
Comment #141424

It appears someone created a random word generator posting under “saying.” It’s still being perfected, as you can see from this post in the previous thread:

“Elitism Coward section John kerry coward during viet nam war coward iraq war. Wesley clarke coward viet nam war coward iraq war.In any other country these two jay birds would be executed.”

With some work, the word strings will be turned into sentences, and someday, they may even make sense. Getting the random word generator to apply to a specific topic could be tougher, but be assured, it’s’ being worked on.

Posted by: phx8 at April 18, 2006 12:08 PM
Comment #141426
the Right’s inference that the ‘Culture of Corruption’ eruptions had abated is wishful thinking, willful denial or all of the above. Posted by Bert M. Caradine at April 18, 2006 03:18 AM

I think it’s just more of the GOPer Big Lie philosophy. Repeat loudly and often enought, then sheep will start to chant: “4 legs good, 2 legs bad”


d.a.n.

4 lines! Holy crap, you feeling OK bud? :-)

Posted by: Dave at April 18, 2006 12:15 PM
Comment #141427

Aldous
I live in a red state. There’s a lot of anti Bush folks here. They speak out just as freely as the pro Bush folks. And they aint shouted down or told to shut up. Now there’s a whole heap of name calling on both sides and plenty of interesting discussion, but when someone starts telling someone else to shut up or starts trying to shout someone down it’s usually the anti Bushies that are doing it. And that don’t happen often.
Before you make comments about red states I would suggest to go to one and see what’s really happening in them first.
But then you wouldn’t be being Aldous then would ya? And that could get boring.

Posted by: Ron Brown at April 18, 2006 12:16 PM
Comment #141428

BTW Aldous,
I’m glad the Managing Editor aint a Republican too. I’m also glad he aint a Democrat either.

Posted by: Ron Brown at April 18, 2006 12:18 PM
Comment #141468

>>With some work, the word strings will be turned into sentences, and someday, they may even make sense. Getting the random word generator to apply to a specific topic could be tougher, but be assured, it’s’ being worked on.

Posted by: phx8 at April 18, 2006 12:08 PM

Does this mean we are being SPAMed? I have a bad enough time with my email…NOT HERE TOO!!!

Posted by: Marysdude at April 18, 2006 2:27 PM
Comment #141510

I see three options for corrupt politicians:

Vote for them
Vote aginst them
Jail them

Guess which one I’d recomend!

Posted by: Bearz at April 18, 2006 4:32 PM
Comment #141599

Bearz
All politicians need to serve two terms.
One in office.
One in jail.

Posted by: Ron Brown at April 19, 2006 12:15 AM
Comment #141626
4 lines! Holy crap, you feeling OK bud? :-)
No. I got a cramp in my index finger from all the scrolling up and down with my mouse wheel. : )
Ron Brown wrote: All politicians need to serve two terms:
  • One in office.
  • One in jail.

That’s hilarious!
That needs to be a bumber sticker!

You know, they might have already done that:
Look at your Congress….
_______OUR 535 members of the U.$. CONGRESS________
7 that have been arrested for fraud;
19 have been accused of writing bad checks;
117 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses;
3 have done time for assault;
71, repeat 71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit;
14 have been arrested on drug-related charges;
8 have been arrested for shoplifting;
21 currently are defendants in lawsuits;
84 have been arrested for drunk driving in the last year;
________________________________________
That was originally published in CapitolHillBlue in 1999. If you were to update the list, it would be even worse now. And, if voters continue to support the status quo, the list will be even worse 10 years from now.

Posted by: d.a.n at April 19, 2006 3:41 AM
Comment #141627

The fallacy that ‘all politicians are corrupt’ is sad residue of the republican “Culture of Corruption”. I’m sure, though I can’t prove it, that SOME republicans have integrity and likewise some democrats ARE corrupt. But before you go slashing your ballot with no intent BUT to vote out incumbants, look at the candidate’s record. What did he vote for and what against and when did he fail to vote at all? Voting out incumbants for it’s own sake implies that the newly elected will be uncorruptable. HAH!!!

Be a lazy voter and throw the baby out with the bathwater if you wish… I for one, will examine the issues and the history of the incumbants who represent me and I will vote accordingly.

Posted by: Thom Houts at April 19, 2006 4:08 AM
Comment #141664

Yes, I agree 100%
Keep the good ones.
Look at their records at: issues2000.org
See their fondness for pork-barrel at: cagw.org
Know any good incumbent politicians?
Who are they ?
With such a dysfunctional system and a severe lack of transparency, who can really know ?
Have they done anything to distinguish themselves from the typical bought-and-paid for incumbents ?

Can anyone list 10, 20, 50, or even 268 incumbents (half of the 535) in Congress) that:

  • do not vote irresponsibly for pork-barrel (while our troops risk life and limb, go without body armor, armor for vehicles, and adequate medical and health care) ?

  • do not vote themselves cu$hy perks and raises (e.g. such as the extravagant retirement plans, funded by tax-payers, that are not part of the same mismanaged Social Security and Medicare systems that tax-payers are relegated to) ?

  • do not ignore problems for fear of risking re-election or defying their big-money-donor puppeteers ?

  • do not tempt, pressure, and threaten newcomers with the loss of party support if the newcomers don’t accept the status quo ?
  • do not prevent newcomers from passing badly-needed, common-sense, no-brainer, responsible reforms ?

  • do not pander ?

  • do not peddle influence and accept money from big-money-donors ?

  • do not spend a great deal of time and tax-payers’ money (via allowances) trolling for money for their campaign war-chests ?

  • do not abuse their allowances (provided by tax-payers) to retain their cu$hy, coveted seats of power ? (such as Hillary Clinton’s $514,148 per year lease (2001) with the most expensive hometown office of any U.S. senator).

  • do not look the other way ?

  • genuinely embrace badly-needed, common-sense, no-brainer reforms, such as campaign finance reform, election reform, tax reform, or any reform that will create more transparent, accountable, and responsible government, even if it diminishes their power and opportunities for self-gain ?

  • are fiscally responsible ? (good luck)

  • don’t shoot their hunting buddies? (oh…that’s the executive branch)

  • have a good attendance record; many (such as Sen. John Conyers) don’t even bother to show up to vote much of the time ?

  • do not travel all about via gifts (bribes) or waste tax-payer dollars (like ;

  • do not vote themselves raises, special perk$, and cu$hy retirement plans while they totally mismanage and plunder Social Security ($12.8 trillion in the hole)and Medicare Systems.

  • do not fuel the petty partisan warfare that distracts the nation from our many pressing problems ?

  • deserve to retain their cu$hy, coveted, and prized seats of power ?

Unfortunately, the bar is set so, so low. The system is so perverted and dysfunctional, it corrupts almost all within it. Incumbents always outnumber newcomers, and pressure, threaten, and tempt newcomers to accept the status quo.
And that will continue, until voters make it obvious to incumbent politicians that their careers will be short, indeed, if they succumb to the status quo too!

If you can’t even come up with 268 (half of 535) in Congress, what’s that mean ?

If any incumbent really is responsible, then they deserve to stay. Keep them.
Otherwise, they don’t deserve to stay in their cu$hy, coveted seats of power, and perhaps that is the price that the irresponsible incumbents should pay for looking the other way?

Posted by: d.a.n at April 19, 2006 9:45 AM
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