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John - you could not have said it any better. Its time for W. and Dick to go. And take Condi out too.

When it becomes official he leaked Plame’s name, doesn’t that mean he’ll have to fire himself? It’s all but confirmed.

Oh yep. Time for him to go.

My God You Crazy ??
If Bush resignes, won’t that make CHENEY Resident ??
Won’t we be in a worse situation, [ if that’s possible ]

The only problem with a Bush resignation or impeachment is that Cheney is next in line, and after him the Republican Speaker of the very dirty House. How far down the line would we have to go to get honor and integrity?

Personally, I just hope we, and the world, can survive another two and a half years of this incompetence, cronyism, arrogance, and corruption. The only chance we have is in November to vote in some real checks and balances on this most horrible administration.

And, by the way, before all the lurking rightists come after me, I have voted conservative most of my 60 years, and only left when I saw how the religious right was turning my party into one of intolerance and self-righteous criticism of anyone or anything that doesn’t agree with your own personal choices and beliefs. Still, I support and appreciate moderate Republicans, who have the integrity to follow their own hearts instead of the party voice, as well as moderate Democrats.

This last few years is proof that the old adage is unfortunately too correct “Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.” we saw it with Democrats, and we’re seeing it with Republicans. At some point, we as a nation will have to address the corruption inherent in a system that requires obscene amount of money to even begin to mount a campaign. I thing that’s the only way we’ll ever put integrity back into the equation. Even the most honorable politicians have to make deals with the devil to raise the money needed to continue their service.

Kinda got off topic there, but this is my first post ever on any blog, and once I got started, just didn’t know where to stop. Anyway, John, you’re idea is a good one, except that we’d be leaving the frying pan for the fire!

Maggie, Murrell,
Please read the entire article. The last sentence addresses Dick.

My favorite word for this sort of thing - hysterical, in both its current connotations – i.e. very funny and way unrealistic and over the top.

Seriously. This kind of thing is unhelpful. We all know that President Bush will not resign and that the Dems don’t have the ability to successfully impeach him, not now, not with the most optimistic Dem scenario in November. Remember even Andrew Johnson beat the wrap and he was really up against a hostile Congress.

Re the detail of what Libby said. He did not refer specifically to the Plame affair. We don’t know about that. That is why the liberal media is relatively subdued about it. He said that the President had authorized him to share classified information, which - BTW - the President can do according to a Clinton era directive that allows the President to declassify anything he wants.

Jack:
i understand your discussion; i just happen to disagree with it.

This has nothing to do with Dems or Repubs. This has to do with accountability and resolve. This President has never changed; he is who he is. And if anything, it’s the liberal communcommunity that has given him the most latitude in dealing with the post-911 world. But everyone has their limits. That’s why you’re seeing the poll numbers sink to all-time lows. It’s not because the liberals convinced the conservatives that Bush is bad for America. No, it’s quite the contrary; the conservatives figured that out all by themselves. Don’t blame the liberals if the conservatives finally change their minds.

Oh, if only wishes and articles could make it so !
Jack, there is a process by which the President can de-classify a document, or statement, or whatever……..but it isn’t just telling itchy-finger Dick to do it.

The leaking of a CIA agent’s identity for political purposes should not only be an impeachable offense. It is criminal, and deserves jail time for Libby, Bush, and Cheney.

That is, if it is true.

get over it and let it go!Bush won!Twice!

We always knew we were in trouble with Bush, but it was his promise to use the political capital he had “earned” from that 51% “mandate” that sent shivers down my spine.

It’s HIS collateral? Does that mean it’s HIS government, entirely? Never has Bush respected that anything is actually owned by the people. That’s the problem with approaching government like a business. Like many bad bosses, Bush really thinks he is doing all of this himself.

Bush doesn’t care for the American people. His lies are exceeded only by his senses of corporate nepotism and lust for war.

What did Eisenhower say? Beware the military-industrial establishment. You’d better believe it.

s.a.h. he finegled it twice, but what does that have to do with the contents of this article?? This addresses lying, cheating, corruption and ETC..and no matter how he made it where he is, we deserve better!! He has to go!

JT: You hit the nail right on the head.
This president has brought the United States down to its lowest point in history. And that goes for the entire world.
Everything you mentioned is true and, of course, there’s a lot more as well.
While we’re wishing, we may as well wish for Rummy, Condi and Dick to leave as well.
Jack: All this is just wishing well stuff, so don’t get your shorts in a bunch.
We still have to get thru November and see what happens.

jack, Andrew Johnson didn’t live in this media-rich culture, either. When, not if, the Dems regain control of either or both House and Senate, you better believe that impeachment will be on the table. That’s the only way we’ll ever regain some credibility with the rest of the world — by cleaning up our own dirty mess. If Clinton can come so close for lying about sex, then a Bush impeachment, after all the dirt this administration has played in, should be guaranteed.

Since it’s doubtful Bush will resign, I tend to focus my thoughts on how history will look at him. I believe that history will look on the Bush II administration (to distingish him from Bush I, his father) as one one of the most failed presidencies in history, up there with Grant and Hoover.

1. Started and got us bogged down in a pointless war and has already said its the next president’s problem

2. Failed to catch the leader of the group that attacked the U.S. (bin Laden)

3. Failed to pass any significant legislation addressing pressing domestic problems (health care, retirement security, income inequality.)

4. saw the deficit, debt, and trade deficit all explode and did nothing about it.

And I haven’t even begun to talk about the scandals that will be genuinely investigated if the Democrats take back one or both houses of Congress in the elections.

Libby’s defence is that he was authorized to leak. I doubt this will work for him because he is charged with lying not leaking.
Why doesn’t the President just get the Plame insident behind him before the election. Why doesn’t he just say he authorized the leaking of that womans name and proclaim that the 2nd amendment makes him king during a time of neverending war and not subject to the laws of the United States.

Steve K, Good list.
Let me add to it…

Look at these numerous, collosal failures:
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Iraq:

1. Failing to build a real international coalition prior to the Iraq invasion, forcing the US to shoulder the full cost and consequences of the war.

2. Approving the demobilization of the Iraqi Army in May, 2003 – bypassing the Joint Chiefs of Staff and reversing an earlier position, the President left hundreds of thousands of armed Iraqis disgruntled and unemployed, contributing significantly to the massive security problems American troops have faced during occupation.

3. Not equipping troops in Iraq with adequate body armor or armored HUMVEES.

4. Ignoring the advice Gen. Eric Shinseki regarding the need for more troops in Iraq – now Bush is belatedly adding troops, having allowed the security situation to deteriorate in exactly the way Shinseki said it would if there were not enough troops.

5. Ignoring plans drawn up by the Army War College and other war-planning agencies, which predicted most of the worst security and infrastructure problems America faced in the early days of the Iraq occupation.

6. Making a case for war which ignored intelligence that there were no Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq.

7. Deriding “nation-building” during the 2000 debates, then engaging American troops in one of the most explicit instances of nation building in American history.

8. Predicting along with others in his administration that US troops would be greeted as liberators in Iraq.

9. Predicting Iraq would pay for its own reconstruction.

10. Wildly underestimating the cost of the war.

11. Trusting Ahmed Chalabi, who has dismissed faulty intelligence he provided the President as necessary for getting the Americans to topple Saddam.

12. Disbanding the Sunni Baathist managers responsible for Iraq’s water, electricity, sewer system and all the other critical parts of that country’s infrastructure.

13. Failing to give UN weapons inspectors enough time to certify if weapons existed in Iraq.

14. Including discredited intelligence concerning Nigerian Yellow Cake in his 2003 State of the Union.

15. Announcing that “major combat operations in Iraq have ended” aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln on May 1, 2003, below a “Mission Accomplished” banner – more U.S. soldiers have died in combat since Bush’s announcement than before it.

16. Awarding a multi-billion dollar contract to Halliburton in Iraq, which then repeatedly overcharged the government and served troops dirty food.

17. Refusing to cede any control of Post-invasion Iraq to the international community, meaning reconstruction has received limited aid from European allies or the U.N.

18. Failing to convince NATO allies why invading Iraq was important.

19. Having no real plan for the occupation of Iraq.

20. Limiting bidding on Iraq construction projects to “coalition partners,” unnecessarily alienating important allies France, Germany and Russia.

21. Diverting $700 million into Iraq invasion planning without informing Congress.

22. Shutting down an Iraqi newspaper for “inciting violence” – the move, which led in short order to street fighting in Fallujah, incited more violence than the newspaper ever had.

23. Telling Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan about plans to go to war with Iraq before Secretary of State Colin Powell.

Counterterrorism:

24. Allowing several members of the Bin Laden family to leave the country just days after 9/11, some of them without being questioned by the FBI.

25. Focusing on missile defense at the expense of counterterrorism prior to 9/11.

26. Thinking al Qaeda could not attack without state sponsors, and ignoring evidence of a growing threat unassociated with “rogue states” like Iraq or North Korea.

27. Threatening to veto the Homeland Security department – The President now concedes such a department “provides the ability for our agencies to coordinate better and to work together better than it was before.”

28. Opposing the creation of the September 11th commission, which the President now expects “to contain important recommendations for preventing future attacks.”

29. Denying documents to the 9/11 commission, only relenting after the commissioners threatened a subpoena.

30. Failing to pay more attention to an August 6, 2001 PDB entitled “Bin laden Determined to Attack in U.S.”

31. Repeatedly ignoring warnings of terrorists planning to use aircraft before 9/11.

32. Appointing the ultra-secretive Henry Kissinger to head the 9/11 commission – Kissinger stepped down weeks later due to conflicts of interest.

33. Asking for testimony before the 9/11 commission be limited to one hour, a position from which the president later backtracked.

34. Not allowing national Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice to testify before the 9/11 commission – Bush changed his mind as pressure mounted.

35. Cutting an FBI request for counterterrorism funds by two-thirds after 9/11.

36. Telling Americans there was a link between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda.

37. Failing to adequately secure the nation’s nuclear weapons labs.

38. Not feeling a sense of urgency about terrorism or al Qaeda before 9/11.

Afghanistan

39. Reducing resources and troop levels in Afghanistan and out before it was fully secure.

40. Not providing security in Afghanistan outside of Kabul, leaving nearly 80% of the Afghan population unprotected in areas controlled by Feudal warlords and local militias.

41. Committing inadequate resources for the reconstruction of Afghanistan.

42. Counting too heavily on locally trained troops to fill the void in Afghanistan once U.S. forces were relocated to Iraq.

43. Not committing US ground troops to the capture of Osama Bin Laden, when he was cornered in the Tora Bora region of Afghanistan in November, 2001.

44. Allowing opium production to resume on a massive scale after the ouster of the Taliban.

Weapons of Mass Destruction

45. Opposing an independent inquiry into the intelligence failures surrounding WMD – later, upon signing off on just such a commission, Bush claimed he was “determined to make sure that American intelligence is as accurate as possible for every challenge in the future.”

46. Saying: “We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories.”

47. Trusting intelligence gathered by Vice President Cheney’s and Secretary Rumsfeld’s “Office of Special Plans.”

48. Spending $6.5 billion on nuclear weapons this year to develop new nuclear weapons this year – 50% more in real dollars than the average during the cold war – while shortchanging the troops on body armor.

Foreign Policy:

49. Ignoring the importance of the Middle East peace process, which has deteriorated with little oversight or strategy evident in the region.

50. Siding with China in February, 2004 against a democratic referenda proposed by Taiwan, a notable shift from an earlier pledge to stand with “oppressed peoples until the day of their freedom finally arrives.”

51. Undermining the War on Terrorism by preemptively invading Iraq.

52. Failing to develop a specific plan for dealing with North Korea.

53. Abandoning the United States’ traditional role as an evenhanded negotiator in the Middle East peace process.

Economic:

54. Signing a report endorsing outsourcing with thousands of American workers having their jobs shipped overseas.

55. Instituting steel tariffs deemed illegal by the World Trade Organization – Bush repealed them 20-months later when the European Union pledged to impose retaliatory sanctions on up to $2.2 billion in exports from the United States.

56. Promoting economic policies that failed to create new jobs.

57. Promoting economic policies that failed to help small businesses

58. Pledging a “jobs and growth” package would create 1,836,000 new jobs by the end of 2003 and 5.5 million new jobs by 2004—so far the president has fallen 1,615,000 jobs short of the mark.

59. Running up a foreign deficit of “such record-breaking proportions that it threatens the financial stability of the global economy.”

60. Issuing inaccurate budget forecasts accompanying proposals to reduce the deficit, omitting the continued costs of Iraq, Afghanistan and elements of Homeland Security.

61. Claiming his 2003 tax cut would give 23 million small business owners an average tax cut of $2,042 when “nearly four out of every five tax filers (79%) with small business income would receive less” than that amount.

62. Passing tax cuts for the wealthy while falsely claiming “people in the 10 percent bracket” were benefiting most.”

63. Passing successive tax cuts largely responsible for turning a projected surplus of $5 trillion into a projected deficit of $4.3 trillion.

64. Moving to strip millions of overtime pay.

65. Not enforcing corporate tax laws.

66. Backing down from a plan to make CEOs more accountable when “the corporate crowd” protested.

67. Not lobbying oil cartels to change their mind about cutting oil production.

68. Passing tax cuts weighted heavily to help the wealthy.

69. Moving to allow greater media consolidation.

70. Nominating a notorious proponent of outsourcing, Anthony F. Raimondo, to be the new manufacturing Czar—Raimondo withdrew his name days later amidst a flurry of harsh criticism.

71. Ignoring calls to extend unemployment benefits with long-term unemployment reaching a twenty-year high

72. Threatening to veto pension legislation that would give companies much needed temporary relief.

Education:

73. Under-funding No Child Left Behind

74. Breaking his campaign pledge to increase the size of Pell grants.

75. Signing off on an FY 2005 budget proposing the smallest increase in education funding in nine years.

76. Under-funding the Title I Program, specifically targeted for disadvantaged kids, by $7.2 billion.

77. Freezing Teacher Quality State Grants, cutting off training opportunities for about 30,000 teachers, and leaving 92,000 less

teachers trained than the president called for in his own No Child Left Behind bill.

78. Freezing funding for English language training programs.

79. Freezing funding for after school programs, potentially eliminating 50,000 children from after-school programs.

Health:

80. Not leveling with Americans about the cost of Medicare – the president told Congress his new Medicare bill would cost $400 billion over ten years despite conclusions by his own analysts the bill would cost upwards of $500 billion over that period.

81. Silencing Medicare actuary Richard Foster when his estimates for the Administration’s Medicare bill were too high.

82. Letting business associate David Halbert, who owns a company which stands to make millions from new discount drug cards, craft key elements of the new Medicare bill.

83. Underfunding health care for troops and veterans.

84. Allowing loopholes to persist in Mad-Cow regulations.

85. Relaxing food labeling restrictions on health claims.

86. Falsely claiming the restrictions on stem cell research would not hamper medical progress.

87. Reducing action against improper drug advertising by 80 percent.

Environment:

88. Abandoning the Kyoto Treaty without offering an alternative for reducing greenhouse effect.

89. Counting on a voluntary program to reduce emissions of harmful gasses—so far only a tiny fraction of American companies have signed up.

90. Gutting clean air standards for aging power plants.

91. Weakening energy efficiency standards.

92. Relaxing dumping standards for mountaintop mining, and opening the Florida Everglades and Oregon’s Siskiyou National Forest to mining.

93. Lifting protection for more than 200 million acres of public land.

94. Limiting public challenges to logging projects and increased logging in protected areas, including Alaska’s Tongass National Forest.

95. Weakening environmental standards for snowmobiles and other off-road vehicles while pushing for exemptions for air pollution proposals for five categories of industrial facilities.

96. Opposing legislation that would require greater fuel efficiency for passenger cars.

97. Reducing inspections, penalties for violations, and prosecution of environmental crimes.

98. Misleading the public about the Washington mad cow case and the likely effectiveness of USDA’s weak testing program.

99. Withdrawing public information on chemical plant dangers, previously used to hold facilities accountable for safety improvements.

Other:

100. Cutting grants to state and local governments in FY 2005, forcing states to make massive cuts in job training, education, housing and environment.

randy, the other problem with Bush approching government as if it’s his own business, is that every business he ever started failed. Except with the Texas Rangers, where he had enough partners to make the tough decisions for him. He’s failed at everything he’s ever tried.

d.a.n.,

[obscure religious reference/joke follows]

If you can cut the list to exactly 95 items, I’ll volunteer to nail it to the White House door!

The president’s term should have never began. He didn’t win the first time! Bush is way over due. He needs to resign and allow Democrats to govern the country, the way it should be, with ETHICS! Sometimes, I feel ashamed to be American, because we have such imcompetant leadership. George Bush is an illiterate dummy and has allowed America to sink in the holes of disaster. America should’ve learned from the first Bush Administration, afterall the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. Americans are constantly complaining about his inability to run government, well I say, voters get what they deserved! They shouldn’t have voted for his second term. As a matter of fact, the only reason he won, was he played the ” TERROR CARD”, by making Americans afraid of another terrorist attack. America has always been attacked and will continue to be attacked, unless he implements security policies that work. Unfortunately, he doesn’t have the sense to do so. George Bush , Your time is up!

Jack is right that it ain’t gonna happen.

Bush now gets to thread the needle about how he didn’t lie when he said he didn’t authorize leaks. Many Republicans I know here in Texas are already calling Bush a liar, and wishing he just wouldn’t keep doing it.

Cowboys ain’t supposed to lie.’Cept them grungy ones with black hats.

Delay quit in attempt to help avoid the rush from Republicans in November. Bush can’t quit. Maybe Cheney will shoot him accidently, and then have a heart attack.

November will tell us if Americans are as stupid as this Congress and Administration assumes they are.

Bush is way over due. He needs to resign and allow Democrats to govern the country, the way it should be, with ETHICS!

Yes, Bush has BUBARed everything (Bushed Up Beyoned All Recognition), but he had help.
But, do you think Democrats will do much better?

The real solution is for voters to do their part, and do what they were supposed to be doing all along, and vote out all irresponsible incumbents, always, regardless of party. That’s simply how it is supposed to work.

Pulling the party lever is lazy, and gives rise to what we have now with the Republican party, and the two parties simply take turns, because they both consist of too many irresponsible incumbents. True, Republicans may be a bit more corrupt at the moment, but that is only because they are the “In Party” at the moment, abusing their power (more seats). But, when Democrats are the “In Party”, there’s really not much difference, over the long run, because both parties consist of people, and too many in each party are simply irresponsible.

So, the best thing to do is what we were always supposed to do.

Re the detail of what Libby said. He did not refer specifically to the Plame affair. We don’t know about that. That is why the liberal media is relatively subdued about it. He said that the President had authorized him to share classified information, which - BTW - the President can do according to a Clinton era directive that allows the President to declassify anything he wants.

Jack’s right - Libby’s claim is not an impeachable offense. A much better justification to impeachment would be refusing to obey wiretap laws passed by Congress, but realistically, folks, that certainly ain’t gonna happen.

To me the real impact of this story is that for W’s crowd, it is now even more clear that the priorities are politics first, and national security second.

The leaks discussed here were a dirty, nasty business. Dick and W’s staff were trying to discredit someone who was casting doubt on a dubious justification for war. As part of this game they leaked information that had been classified including some information that at least presumptively did have a real effect on national security (i.e., Plame’s real job).

The reason it was leaked, rather than just being announced in a press conference, was that it was obviously a political game that they were playing, and nobody wanted to take responsibility for it. Nobody wanted to say, “hey, this was classified for reasons of national security, but now we’re letting everyone hear it, so we’ll have a better chance of being re-elected”. They were so anxious to avoid responsibility for the leaks that afterwards the president’s men lied about what happened, under oath.

Libby’s claim is that everyone was involved in this dirty game - from W on down. This is news, guys! Was it illegal? maybe, maybe not. Was it just politics as usual, no big deal? I don’t think so - because if it was, why did people spend time in jail to keep it quiet, and why did Libby lie under oath?

Why is it so important to you cry baby democrats to be totaly week.Every time this country elects a real leader a strong leader you try to take away his power to do what real leaders do.in case you dont know what real leaders do i will enlighten you.they lead they make the hard decisions unlike bill clinton real leaders solve the problems of the time.bill clinton kicked the can down the road time and time again.guess who else would like to see bush step down?bin laden,sadam,iran,korea,the united nations,john kerry,jane fonda,teddy kennedy,non working lazy bumbs,dope dealers,terrorest of all kind,rep.mckinney,al sharpton,dayo man,drug runners,perverts,child molesters,and every other piece of scum in the united states and all over the planet.Now who would they like to see replace president bush?well lets see john kerry,jane fonda,al sharpton,maybe reP. mckinney.hey chumps ill take W ANY TIME OVER THE ALTERNATIVE.

I’m just wondering, are you 12?

I remember reading Liberal calls for Mr. Bill’s resignation after he committed purgery (a felony). Wait a minute…they DIDN’T seek his resignation…they DEFENDED him. Liberals have no tolerance for Repubs but tons of mercy for Demos…go figure.

Today’s politicians don’t resign…they retire. That way they drop off the radar screen and still get all the perks. W will not resign…period. So, get over it.

Strange as it may sound, the last politician to do the right thing was Nixon. My, how far we’ve fallen since then.

Nobody would ever deny that Bush has made mistakes. But, as my old grandpappy always said, the only people who don’t make mistakes are those people who do nothing.

When William Jefferson Clinton stands before the American people and apologizes for ignoring at least four different attacks on the U.S. by al Queda, why he let bin Laden go when he was offered up to the U.S. on a silver platter, and for lying about having sex with “that woman,” then I’ll join you in calling for Bush’s resignation.

Bush didn’t start this war; he inherited it from a president who was more interested in his public image and molesting women in the White House.

Clinton bombed aspirin factories and called it defending the country. Nice and clean. No casualties, nothing to ruin his image.

Bush took the fight to the enemy. Messy business and hard on the image.

If I had a choice of doing the right thing and being called a bas#$@d for it, or doing nothing and being called a hero, well, my mom and dad will forgive you.

pretty sure asked justwondering: I’m just wondering, are you 12?

Ummmmm. Are you referring to age or I.Q. ?

pretty sure

Before you ask, it’s my shoe size!

“Bush took the fight to the enemy. Messy business and hard on the image.”

if by “took the fight to the enemy,” you mean make it universally popular to hate america, decimate a nation for fabricated reasons sowing absolute hatred of america while simultaneously creating a meeting place for them, and killing tens of thousands of innocent people (conservatively), than I totally agree!

If you had the choice between doing the right thing and the wrong thing? I think it should be readily apparent that most people in this country actually classify what bush has done as the “wrong” thing. I’m sure you’re parents will forgive you for the assumption.

John,
Let’s see…
The order of presidential succession is:

The Vice President Richard Cheney
(Oh, that’s right…fire his before you go)

Speaker of the House John Dennis Hastert
(One of those EVIL Reps…have Illinois recall him before you go)

President pro tempore of the Senate1 Ted Stevens
(Wants to build a bridge to WHERE? Get Alaska to recall him too)

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice
(Fire her too. Can’t have a black woman run the U.S., can we?)

Secretary of the Treasury John Snow
(Treasury? That means money. EVIL MONEY-GRUBBING Rep. Fire him too before you go)

Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld
(Oh. THAT guy. Definately and EVIL EMPIRE Rep. Give him the pink slip before you go)

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales
(Not good enough to be a Supreme Court Justice. Not good enough to be President. Make sure he’s gone before you go)

Secretary of the Interior (Vacant)
(No pink slip needed)

Secretary of Agriculture Mike Johanns
(All he knows how to do is spread manure. He’s gone too. Make sure of it)

Secretary of Commerce Carlos Gutierrez
(Born in Cuba. Not eligable)

Secretary of Labor Elaine Chao
(Born in Taiwan. Not eligable.)

Secretary of Health and Human Services Mike Leavitt
(Have you seen the condition of Medicare and Medicaid? Puh-leeze. You’re history too)

Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Alphonso Jackson
(Alphonso? A Presidnet named ALPHONSO? I don’t think so. Fire him too)

Secretary of Transportation Norman Yoshio Mineta
(Three words. High gas prices. You’re out before Bush leaves)

Secretary of Energy Samuel Bodman
(Same as Mineta)

Secretary of Education Margaret Spellings
(Kids can’t even SPELL Spellings. Pick up your check on the way out)

Secretary of Veterans Affairs Jim Nicholson
(If you screw the vets, what will you do to us? Gone!)

Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff
(Isn’t FEMA part of his department? ‘Nuff said)

I’m sure if he fires a couple of hundred people before he goes, sooner or later our next President will be Howard Dean.

“Bush took the fight to the enemy. Messy business and hard on the image.”

So Joe Wilson was the enemy and he went after Joe’s wife? Messy business in deed.

KansasDem

justwondering-
Your party has the majority. If it’s doing things right, there should be no problem. Success is it’s own best argument.

Bush and the Republican congress have a bunch of arguments against them, by that logic. I don’t care whether you think they’re right, because the correctness of both follower and leader must be tested against the same reality.

Bush gained points from the American people when things went well. His critics hushed up, his detractors were left out of ammo. But as his responses to disasters, deficits and the war failed to bring about success, people lost faith in him. The Democrats may have helped amplify the effect, according to their own political interests, but without Bush’s actual failures, there would have been little traction in public opinion.

Part of the problem is the inability of this president to see problems while they are ahead of him, rather than facing him right at the moment. The sad track record of this president is that he deals with or employs people with the foresight to foresee many of the problems, only to claim later that his troubles were only visible in hindsight.

His Army Chief of staff tells him he’ll need more troops than he’s sending. They lame duck him for his troubles. His secretary of the Treasury tells him that they should put triggers on the tax cuts, just in case the economy tanks and revenues drop, in order to keep the country in break-even territory. Colin Powell tells him that if he invades Iraq, the pottery barn rule will apply: if you break it, you’ve bought it. Others told him that the evidence he was presenting to the UN to justify the invasion was wrong. Time after time, the information is available, the expertise is there, but Bush and his close advisors simply have their own picture of the world that they want to satisfy and follow.

You act like Bush is Jesus Christ himself, holding back the forces of darkness. I find that really hard to believe, with Afghanistan’s cash crop once more becoming opium, Bin Laden alive, terrorists delivering their mayhem at will, and our nation’s image tarnished again and again by this administration’s petty behavior and humanitarian outrages. Worse yet, Bush has charged his way past a number of constitutional and institutional protections, making the system more ripe for abuse than ever. Finally, here we have a president that has done something no other president I can recall has ever done: gone his entire tenure in office without Vetoing a bill. The President and Congress seem to be a mutual rubber stamp committee. The results? Terrible.

For you, the value of the president’s actions depend on what beliefs he carries the banner for, but for many Americans, the question is whether or not Bush has acted in the Public’s best interests. The overall impression is no.

“I’m just wondering, are you 12?

Posted by: pretty sure at April 7, 2006 11:57 AM”

I think it’s “dead-eye” Dick on his Blackberry.

KansasDem

justwondering….so am I…….do you read, watch t.v…..listen to the news at all and pay attention? Your comments are quite irellevent but easy to make when you don’t cite legitimate arguments. And just a quick FYI…..rep McKinney stepped up, acknowledged and apologized for her actions, took responsibility for them, and it was due to the urging of her fellow reps…ON THE BLUE SIDE OF THE HOUSE….which tells me that there is some integrity to acknowledge, at least among the ones doing the encouraging.

mpc

Thanks for your concern. I’m sure they will!

kansasdem

I’ve always wondered about that. How do you “out” somebody who made it a point to tell everyone she met that she worked for the CIA.

Old Joe was equally proud of his wife’s occupation and was known to let other’s know just how proud he was.

Thousands of people like Plame have desk jobs at Langley and thousands more know who they are. Does that mean their lives are in danger?

The real covert agents are invisible. They don’t go around blabbing about working at the CIA.

Paul,
You’re damn right he should step down. Especially after saying he’d fire those responsible for the leak. But he won’t step down. That would go completely against all we know about Bush’s (lack of) character. We’ll have to impeach him — but first the Dems have to win the House in November, otherwise the president and his administration will never be held accountable.

Jack:
“Re the detail of what Libby said. He did not refer specifically to the Plame affair. We don’t know about that. That is why the liberal media is relatively subdued about it. He said that the President had authorized him to share classified information, which - BTW - the President can do according to a Clinton era directive that allows the President to declassify anything he wants.”

The question is, should the president think he can declassify sensitive intelligence data only for political gain? And then turn around and criticize leaks of other secret information (his unconstitutional wiretapping) as a threat to national security?!
Sorry that sh*t doesn’t flush, no matter how “hysterical”, “unrealistic” and “over the top” you happen to think our reaction is.
To say this was not about Joseph Wilson and Valerie Plame is also pure BS, because the court papers say that all this happened as a rebuttal to Wilson’s Op-Ed article in The New York Times which claimed that the president and vice president’s assertions to the country about Iraq purchasing yellowcake uranium were completely false.

We also know from the court papers that at Cheney’s office, Wilson’s article was viewed “as a direct attack on the credibility of the vice president (and the president) on a matter of signal importance: the rationale for the war in Iraq,”
And while Libby has testified that at his meeting with Judy Miller he never discussed Valerie Plame’s CIA status, because “he had forgotten by that time that he learned about Ms. Wilson’s C.I.A. employment a month earlier from the vice president.”
The problem with that of course, is that in Miller’s account of that meeting with Libby (which she later published in the NYT), she said her notes showed that they HAD discussed Wilson’s wife and that she was working in a unit of the C.I.A. which was engaged in assessing unconventional weapons.

You righties can try to spin this all you want, but what took place is more than clear. And it’s a complete disgrace.
This president and vice president are lying, treasonous, pieces of sh*t who need to be removed from power.

JimT wrote: Let’s see … The order of presidential succession is: …

Oh? It’s not Alexander Haig ?

McKinney is a disgrace to her race and to her party. Not even the Congressional Black Caucus has rushed to her defense. Her conduct, and she has a history of such behavior (and using her race as an excuse) reminds me of a quote I read sometime ago.

“There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the negro race before the public. Some of these people do not want the negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs. There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient to get well.”

The author of that quote was Booker T. Washington, a true credit to his race and to America.

I would take this further than resigning. I believe Mr. Bush, Mr. Cheney, Mr. Rumsfeld, Ms. Rice - and perhaps others - should be held responsible for what they have done to our country. After all, isn’t the act of revealing an undercover agent’s identity considered treason when the country is at war? And let’s not even go into the circumstances of the Irag war! To take over a country, much like Hussein himself did in invading Kuwait, is reprehensible (yes W that is a big word) to say the least. The corruption issue has finally begun eating at the current administration. Every day a new piece of information comes out of hiding, and is even revealed in “leaks” ordered by Mr. Bush. Even his own party is holding him at arm’s length.

It comes as no surprise to me that the number of millionaires in the good old USA has increased to an all time high; the middle class carries the load on their back: income is taxed, taxed and taxed again. And of course the lower income class (those of us who work faithfully but can’t seem to keep up) increases as does the number of those who live in poverty.

This administration paints a sad, sad picture of the state of our country. We should be rioting in the streets, but we can’t afford to miss a day of work. We have to fill our gas tanks, pay for heat, and buy groceries. If there is anything left, perhaps we can pay rent or make a house payment. And, of course, we have to choose whether we buy food or medication - a much needed visit to the dentist/doctor or the child’s shoes. A sad time indeed.

>>When William Jefferson Clinton stands before the American people and apologizes for ignoring at least four different attacks on the U.S. by al Queda.

Bush didn’t start this war; he inherited it from a president who was more interested in his public image and molesting women in the White House.

Clinton bombed aspirin factories and called it defending the country. Nice and clean. No casualties, nothing to ruin his image.

Posted by: slowthinker at April 7, 2006 12:04 PM

I’ve got an idea…let’s impeach Clinton, so Cheney/Bush can resign. Oh, wait a minute…Clinton’s already been impeached…oh, well, that leaves only the resignation. When do you expect that to happen, slowthinker?

John,

Did he do anything illegal? Before you fly off the handle, do you have any proof? If so, run it down to the New York Times right away. I’m sure they would run a front page story 100 days straight to get the word out.

Before you say “the media can’t be trusted because they are owned by evil corporations that are beholden to the Bush family” let me ask this? This media that you speak of, is it the same media that you forged documents a few weeks before an election?

Ooooh I know it was Rove trick. He planted the documents at CBS. Man, they are evil genises aren’t they.

Can a President fire a Vice-President? He is a elected offical.
I know a president can get a different running mate at election time but don’t even that, require the Party’s Ok ?

Murrell

Please don’t act surprised. Anyone who would allow thousands to die for an unnecessary war is capable of anything.

sandra davidson mckinney apologized because she dont like jail food.all though she will be eating it for a while.stephen daugherty the republicans dont set the agenda the liberal media and minority party with thier lies and deception control most every thing that goes on in this country.If you dont see this you are not only misinformed you are blind!you have tunnal vision you see one thing and that is hate.you sir hate george bush.your fear is that g.w. will be sucsessfull and that makes you and your’s historical idiot’s.Imagine if the democrat party would fight as hard to win this war as they do fighting against the u.s.a. this war would over for the most part.YOU DONT WANT TO WIN THE WAR ON TERRORISM YOU WANT TO WIN THE WAR AGAINST GEORGE BUSH AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.You sir are a traitor to your country and don’t even know it.

“I’ve always wondered about that. How do you “out†somebody who made it a point to tell everyone she met that she worked for the CIA.”

That nonsense has been discounted numerous times:

“Tillotson told The Washington Times that he “absolutely didn’t know” Plame worked for the CIA and that “[w]e understood her to work as an economist.” These comments were consistent with what he told The New York Times on July 5 and his reported statements to the FBI in October.”
from:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200510260005

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“FBI agents interviewed at least two of Wilson’s neighbors in the Palisades section of Northwest Washington on Monday night. In interviews yesterday, Marc Lefkowitz and David Tillotson said they told two FBI agents they had no clue that Plame, whom they knew by her married name, Valerie Wilson, worked for the agency until Novak’s column appeared.”
from:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/25/AR2005102502037_pf.html

******

“”She wasn’t mysterious,” Mr. Tillotson said. “She was sort of a working soccer mom.”“
from:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/05/politics/05wilson.html?ex=1144555200&en=92df33087c92873f&ei=5070

******

Maybe you should try getting your news from someone other than Drudge, Limbaugh, Hannity, or Coulter.

KansasDem

When Clinton lied no one died! Bush needs to be humiliated with all his lies exposed! History WILL reveal the truth. Like a cheating girlfriend, the truth always comes out in the end. You will see! The only difference between Bush supporters and opposers is time. Opposers already see the truth and the supporters are blinded by the propaganda (ahem, Fox news, which is the only news show Cheney watches (and concerns himself with to manipulate since his followers also only watch it and whom he only can manipulate now).

It’s easy to conceal the lies when you’re in charge and have everyone under your absolute rule! Come on! If you call Conde Rice an independent thinker then you’re BLIND! Just another sign of the dictorship type government we are under. Sure we live in a democracy, but it’s hard to see with every step being run by the RePubicLicans!

And if you think we shouldn’t oppose our government and follow blindly, then move to China! I’m mad as hell! It sucks knowing we have the worst president ever running this country and we can’t do anything about it plus we are ostresized if we make any negative comments about our current adminstration. I got shot a bird for a bumper sticker that simply read “Peace is American” with an American Flag displayed. I think I am more of an American by opposing than following blindly simply because I have the gnads to speak my mind!

All I have to add to this is NOW our National debt is over $30,000 for EVERY MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD living in the US! Imagine that! We started with a surplus and now this! And we just passed a law to allow the LIMIT of our National debt to be even larger! When will this administration’s irresponsiblity end!

So, the bottom line is, are we better off before or after him? Also, in retrospect, should we have listened to the World when they told the US to wait for the world to jump on our “goodwill” wagon we were driving when the world was empathetic to our plight? The world was behind us and now they hate us!

Thanks Bush!!!

For NOTHING!!!!

“sandra davidson mckinney apologized because she dont like jail food.all though she will be eating it for a while.stephen daugherty the republicans dont set the agenda the liberal media and minority party with thier lies and deception control most every thing that goes on in this country.If you dont see this you are not only misinformed you are blind!you have tunnal vision you see one thing and that is hate.you sir hate george bush.your fear is that g.w. will be sucsessfull and that makes you and your’s historical idiot’s.Imagine if the democrat party would fight as hard to win this war as they do fighting against the u.s.a. this war would over for the most part.YOU DONT WANT TO WIN THE WAR ON TERRORISM YOU WANT TO WIN THE WAR AGAINST GEORGE BUSH AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.You sir are a traitor to your country and don’t even know it.”

i’m pretty sure that justwondering is some kind of ultra-conservative quote-bot. it seems that the programmer forgot to add spaces after the periods, but the all caps was a nice touch.

justwondering said
“the republicans dont set the agenda the liberal media and minority party with their lies and deception control most every thing that goes on in this country. If you dont see this you are not only misinformed you are blind!”

Just Wondering,

The Republicans currently control the house, senate and presidency. They use their positions of power in an aggressive attempt to control what information is available to the American people.

Here are some facts, with sources
, for your edification (I hope).

The white house grants Jeff Gannon, who has no credentials whatsoever a press pass which he uses to ask pre screened and framed questions friendly to the administration.
SOURCE:
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/02/02/white_house_friendly_reporter_under_scrutiny?pg=full

Republican Political appointees suppress the scientists of NASA from making the public aware of the results of their research.
SOURCE:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6341451/

Bush Cheney and Libby all either leak or endorse the leaking of classified information to the media.
SOURCE:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/07/washington/07leak.html

So in conclusion I will pose these questions to you, hoping against hope that you will actually read and maybe learn something.

First:
What justification would you provide for the actions outlined above?

Second:
Can you enlighten us all as to what agenda the minority party has been pushing with their lies and deception? If so, can you possibly provide any sources?

Finally:
If you are not willing to consider anyone or anything that is in opposition to your precontrived notions, who is truly blind?

To all, I am currently at work but I would appreciate any additions (with sources) you could come up with that are along the lines of what I have posted.

>>To all, I am currently at work but I would appreciate any additions (with sources) you could come up with that are along the lines of what I have posted.

Posted by: Vex at April 7, 2006 02:59 PM

Vex,

Good info and sources, but I’m sorry you got hoodwinked into this. The posters you respond to are here just to distract and interrupt. Relpying to them is a waste of time and energy. Again, thanks for the info and sources.

Marysdude: Amen to that!!!!!!

YES! I could not have said it better! Rid of BOTH of them! I have read we can hold a mid term election….it worked in California

God Save the USA

Delusional and bitter come to mind. Why do the Liberal dems believe that the country must be run as they see fit or the leadership must be removed? You lost, the nation does not want or need you. You have only held the presidency twice since JFK and they were both failures. Deal with the loss as men (if you can) and set an example for the rest of America. You whining and complaining is old and lame. Your full time job of seraching for “dirt” is decietful. Your leaders are paid to lead, not conspire. Try working for America instead of against it. You’ll feel much better about yourself and may even keep your BP down.

Curmudgeon,
The full time searching for dirt- are you referring to the government prosecutor, Fitzpatrick?- because he’s Republican.

Yesterday that Senator who said AG Gonzales was “stonewalling” about eavesdropping & violating FISA laws- Senator Sensenbrunner- he is a right wing Republican.

The latest poll shows Bush with a 36% approval rating. Of course, it’s only a poll, & we’ll all have to wait for the midterm elections this November to really know for sure…

Oh. I love this. You think Clinton and Carter were failures? How did their approval ratings compare with the ratings of Bush?

it sounds as though the neocons are getting testy. their offensive, mindless, misleading lies have turned into offensive, mindless, irrelevant insults.

…delusional and bitter come to mind.

The best case senario for the Republicans is that they keep their majority in the Congress. If they don’t they may wind up with their worst nightmare.

If Bush were smart (he,he) he would resign now. Even if he took Dick with him the Speaker of the House, Dennis Hastart, will become president, still a Republican.

If Bush decides to ride it out and the Dems pick up the majority in both houses, impeachment becomes a real possibility for both Bush and Dick. If that happens then the Speaker of the House would be a Democrat, Nancy Pelosi.

Rats! The far right has finally found us out. All us secular western liberals secretly yearn for sharia law in our hearts. Who told?

Jay Jay - “If Bush decides to ride it out and the Dems pick up the majority in both houses, impeachment becomes a real possibility for both Bush and Dick. If that happens then the Speaker of the House would be a Democrat, Nancy Pelosi.”

thanks for that wonderful idea. you’ve given me the first breath of hope I’ve had in 6 years. Maybe that’s how we’ll have the first woman president!!

curmudgeon-at-large,

You’ve done a wonderful job of describing just what the GOP did to Clinton. In the case of Bush v. the People, your President betrayed the American trust. No man is above the law!

Bush need not only be impeached he needs to stand trial for treason and bribery! What’s sad is that you don’t realize you’re one of the victims.

KansasDem

This country barely made it thru the first Bush administration(and it wasn’t nearly as bad as this one.) We were just staying afloat with the first term of the second Bush administration. Along comes the election and I agree that the only reason he got re-elected is because he played the fear factor so well, everytime he had a tough question asked of him and he had no better answer avalable he pulled out the “we are a nation under attack line”. Just remember there is another Bush that is in politics and right now he is govener of Fl the state that gave his “Bro” the first election. If he decides to run for president in the future, and the people of this country elect him, they deserve everything that they get. This country can’t handle another Bush in office.

Jay Jay,

Damn it, now you’ve interrupted the Neo-Con bloviating. This is another reason we MUST regain control of every possible seat in the House and Senate now.

Can we do it? It’s a state by state battle. We need to stop looking at ‘08 and concentrate on ‘06. Here in Kansas I have one battle to face. (On the national level)

That is replacing incumbent U.S. Rep. Jerry Moran (Republican) with an honest (and new) Democrat John Doll. Everyone tells me I’m on a fools errand. I say I’m only a fool if I give up without giving it my full effort and my full financial backing. If we lose we lose, but I’ll back Doll to the end.

IMO that’s the attitude each of us Democrats need to have in our home states so we can begin to restore some true integrity to this nation.

KansasDem

Are you REALLY sure that you want Bush to resign or be impeached? First, let me assure you that I am no GW fan. I am a dedicated Democrat. However, let’s look at it this way. If Bush is impeached or resigns, who is president? Cheney! He’s worse! Ok, let’s say Cheney goes with him. Who’s president? Condi Rice! What do we have with her? The SAME ole thing. Plus it would most surely give her a foot in the door for re-election in 2008 which would ensure us of another 4 years of the same BS we are having right now. Let GW stay right where he is for another 2 years. His poll rating are still dropping, the Republicans are even turning against him, and the Democrats have a chance to take enough seats to take back Congress and the Senate. Then we can do something about all this mess and move forward to elect a Democrat president in 2008. It took Clinton-Gore 8 years to clean up the mess left by Reagan-Bush and we can do it again.
klazzychick in NC

klazzychick,

Actually, you are mistaken, Condi is number 4 on the list. If both Bush and Dick go the next in line is the Speaker of the House, Dennis Hastert. If that happens you will just wish that Condi had been next in line.

presidential line of succession:

Current president: George W. Bush

1. Dick Cheney, Vice President

2. Dennis Hastert, Speaker of the House of Representatives

3. Ted Stevens, President pro tempore of the Senate

4. Condoleezza Rice, Secretary of State

5. John W. Snow, Secretary of the Treasury

6. Donald H. Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense

7. Alberto Gonzales, Attorney General

8. Gale Norton, Secretary of the Interior

9. Mike Johanns, Secretary of Agriculture

ineligible: Carlos Gutierrez, Secretary of Commerce (not a natural-born citizen of the U.S.)

ineligible: Elaine Chao, Secretary of Labor (not a natural-born citizen of the U.S.)

10. Michael Leavitt, Secretary of Health and Human Services

11. Alphonso Jackson, Secretary of Housing and Urban Development

12. Norman Mineta, Secretary of Transportation

13. Samuel W. Bodman, Secretary of Energy

14. Margaret Spellings, Secretary of Education

15. Jim Nicholson, Secretary of Veterans Affairs

slowthinker:

You are throwing chum in the water. The liberals reflexively attack anyone who supports a strong defense. Bush was THE choice for the conflict we are in now with rabid islamists. Gore was and is worthless and Kerry would support Bin Laden if the polls showed it was a smart thing to do.

The Bush administration is under a microscope because dems got the red ass from being beat twice. But the dems don’t see the big picture, that this is the time to resolve this dispute with radical islam. Even after September 11th, dems don’t see any need for a new policy. Instead they are concerned that the US will be unpopular with the world.

When dems say compromise, they mean appeasement.

Resignation or impeachment would leave the successor so badly hobbled that they would for the most part be totally ineffective as President.

Impeachment is the only true solution. This is a matter of the public trust. If we fall for this then we truly will fall for anything.

KansasDem

36% job approval rating…

some idiots would vote for Usama bin Laden if he was a card carrying Republican….

and considering the way he has incredibly eluded capture by The Most Powerful Military In The History Of The World… he just might be.

Not only is bush too corrupted to resign… he’s too friggin’ stupid to even realize the harm he’s done to our nation (he’s not alone in his stupidity though… remember that 36%).

Every seat in the House of Representatives is up for grabs this November. Whoever the democratic candidate is in YOUR district, drop a Grant or a Benjamin in his coffer and let him know that you EXPECT him to push for impeachment.

“My favorite word for this sort of thing - hysterical, in both its current connotations ⦣x20AC;“ i.e. very funny and way unrealistic and over the top”.

And this from one who probably supported the impeachment of Clinton for lying about a blowjob.

Very funny indeed.

sounds like something the Taliban would write.

Hey JayJay. I think it would be cool for Norm Mineta to e President. How far down do you think the corruption reaches? :)

Now that the WMD dance has begun over Iran, it seems appropriate for Progressives to be suspicious of Bush & Co. This fact alone justifies the call for the Administration’s en masse resignation — if indeed the Iranians have nukes, as the administration says, they should also know that their past performance has made it impossible for the nation as a whole to allow them the free hand that such a true emergency calls for. They should step aside voluntarily for the sake of national security.

Jim C.

Are you guys insane? If President Bush Resigns That Means TRICKEY DICKY CHANEY will be running the country. Talk about a very horrible world!
That’s the worst thing that could ever happen. I’d rather have two Georges (You know, Curious George and Little Rovie) Than even one trickey dicky. PLEASE GEORGE jr, PLEASE DO NOT RESIGN.

Yadda, Yadda, Yadda, conservative this, Liberal that, legal, illegal, people who commented without reading the whole thing, and commenters whose comments were longer than the original, won twice, or stole it twice, Democrats or republican’ts, drunk, or dry-drunk, impeach, or just wait ‘til he commits suicide or goes hunting with DICK, Cowboy or wanna-be, AWOL or just plain yellow, none of it matters coz I know, what I know, and I knew it LONG before any replublican’ts could figure it out … and as for that, those rats are only going over the side because an election is looming, and they know they’re about to lose it for another 40 years, not because any of them actually grew a brain:

Bush = Worst president in the history of the United States [or anywhere else for that matter], and by a large margin. AND he isn’t even very well equipt as a human being.

I’ll hug your elephant if you’ll kiss-my-ass.

“Mission Accomplished” & “Bring It On”. ;-)

s.a.h. says

get over it and let it go!Bush won!Twice!

So did Clinton, but it didn’t stop the Republicans from hounding him day and night…ooh…he liked about a blowjob under oath…Bush won’t even testify to national security matters under oath!

The only point that has to be made is this…Mr. Bush has never been elected. Calling him President is insulting to Presidents that won fairly. Its insulting to the thousands of men and women who died for America. Its insulting to the Founding Fathers, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Mr. Bush is a fraud and thusly everything he has enacted is void.

Mr. Bush does not respect the founding principles of America and instead has become that what the pilgrims left England to escape from.

Mr. Bush is not President and he never will be according to all that makes America America.

Well said, Peter! Here are a few handy suggestions for how to refer to the present Administration and/or its Head Of State:

- The Resident Of The Benighted State Of America

- Commander-In-Thief

- The Cheney Regency

- BushCo, Inc.*

*[BushCo, Inc. is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Halliburton Industries, Incorporated. “Halliburton Industries” and “Dick Cheney” are registered trademarks. No part of the upcoming Nookewlur War With Canada may be televised without permission of Halliburton Industries and the National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing (NAMBLA) under penalty of law.]

“Bush need not only be impeached he needs to stand trial for treason and bribery! What’s sad is that you don’t realize you’re one of the victims.”

All I can do is (LOL). Are these delusions drug induce or democrat talking point induced? You guys really need to realize that solid proof is needed for impeachment. Not speculation, opinion, druthers or “Rathered” reporting. Dems taking a few seats, well nothing changes. Sleep well blue.

Sad thing is I am an Independent, and it takes one like me to point this out to you. Republicans are not the problem, politics are the problem and for the most part, both parties suck. If you believe democrats are your savior, you are in for a rude awakening. Those who worship their party as a god sicken me.

It would be in the best interest of all parties that people who write in blogs learn how to spell and write coherently…if we are to make all immigrants learn english and write it, then we citizens need to do so as well…and it would be nice if our tarnished Presidency would do so as well…but we know he is not capable of the things he expects of the rest of our citizens…he has lived a lie, and what goes around comes around..

“YOU DONT WANT TO WIN THE WAR ON TERRORISM YOU WANT TO WIN THE WAR AGAINST GEORGE BUSH AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA”.

If George W. Bush and the cult that supports him have come to represent what American should be, damn right I’m a traitor and I will patriotically support any organized American effort to totally destroy same by any means necessary!

It would be in the best interest of all parties that people who write in blogs learn how to spell and write coherently…

Indeed it would, Mary. But you see, the problem is that, ever since the early 1980’s, das Republikkkan Partei has been trying to (quite literally, if you don’t know this) do away entirely with the Department Of Education. Ronald Reagan first called for it, and when he was shouted down by an ouraged citizenry, they decided to do the next best thing: simply underfund both the DOE and PBS until they wither on the vine. The result: a highly pliable consumer monkeymass susceptible to mindlessly repeated Talking Points and Scare Tactics. As long as they get their NASCAR and their SitComs, they will sit contentedly on their bloated asses consuming WonderBread and CheezWiz that they bought in bulk lots at WalMart, while the great crimes against Humanity are committed by the very people they were scared into voting for.

So, don’t look for a lot of Critical Thought (and certainly not Independent Thought) from the Right. It is their beloved Leader, after all, who cannot pronounce the word “Nuclear” and who asked: “Is our children learning?” The answer is: They Is Not.

>>It is their beloved Leader, after all, who cannot pronounce the word “Nuclear†and who asked: “Is our children learning?†The answer is: They Is Not.

Posted by: Betty Burke at April 8, 2006 10:33 PM

Damn…wish I’d said that…

Remember Nixon?
If Bush resigns now, then Cheney will most likely pardon him.
I’d like to suggest a new form of protest…if you’re unhappy with current administration or George Bush specifically then send a package of pretzels to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

oh-oh-oh, and-and he’s bad, bad I say

[If] you’re unhappy with current administration or George Bush specifically then send a package of pretzels to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

Damn! `Wish I’d said that!

:oD