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The Theocrat-Plutocrat Crash

Who would have thought that little Miss Miers would be the straw that breaks the elephant’s back? Everybody knows that the Republican Party is the party of Big Business - the party of plutocrats. Since tycoons are in the minority, the Republican Party wooed and attracted the people of the religious right - it became the party of the theocrats. The amalgam was extremely successful. Until now. With the nomination of Ms. Miers to the Supreme Court, Bush precipitated a vehement crash between the plutocrats and theocrats in the Republican Party.

The Republican Party of today serves the plutocrats well. It gave the rich huge tax cuts. It awarded credit and bank corporations with the new bankruptcy bill that devastates poor consumers in order to make these corporations richer. In an energy bill, it offered energy companies subsidies, tax breaks and other goodies. In a so-called highway bill, it offered similar goodies to a big range of companies. And let's not forget about the no-bid contracts it gave to Halliburton, Bechtel and others.

Theocrats do not necessarily go for such gifts to the rich. However, they play along. They received such things as prayer in the school, restrictions against abortion, recommendation of abstinence to young unmarrieds and faith-based initiatives. Bush even recommended an amendment to abolish gay marriage.

But the theocrats were unsatisfied. They wanted something solid. They wanted somebody on the Supreme Court that would vote to overturn Roe vs. Wade. They were not sure about Roberts, though he is a good Catholic. They went along with the nomination because Roberts was extremely well qualified. However, they were originally upset about the nomination of Miers because there was no way of being positive that she would vote to overturn Roe vs. Wade. Theocrats were reassured when notified that Miers belongs to a conservative evangelical church and by Bush's statement:

“People are interested to know why I picked Harriet Miers. They want to know Harriet Miers’ background. They want to know as much as they possibly can before they form opinions. And part of Harriet Miers’ life is her religion.”

James Dobson, a top theocrat, said he was told by Karl Rove that:

"Harriet Miers is an evangelical Christian; that she is from a very conservative church, which is almost universally pro-life; that she had taken on the American Bar association on the issue of abortion and fought for a policy that would not be supportive of abortion; that she had been a member of the Texas Right to Life."

Other evangelicals seem to be following Dobson's lead. But not the so called elite. Republican intellectuals like Bill Kristol, George Will, James Buchanan and Rich Lowry were harsh and ferocious in their complaints. Some go so far as to call upon Bush to withdraw the nomination. They are upset and unhappy. But why?

Andrew Sullivan says:

"So what we're seeing is an inevitable clash between the party's elite realists and its grass-roots true believers."

What Sullivan calls "elite realists" I call plutocrats, and what he calls "true believers" I call theocrats. The intellectual plutocrats do not care much about God in the schools and sex everywhere. They do not know how religious extremists may vote in a case pitting business against labor or business against consumers. They thought that this time Bush would pick a plutocrat and not a theocrat. They think that Bush strayed from the real purpose of the Republican Party: to take care of Big Business.

The plutocrats are screaming: Let's get back to true Republicanism and helping the rich.

The theocrat-plutocrat crash took some time coming. Now it is here, ready to tear the elephant apart. Not to worry. The donkey is ready to take the place of the elephant.

Posted by Paul Siegel at October 12, 2005 5:37 PM
Comment #85297
Everybody knows that the Republican Party is the party of Big Business - the party of plutocrats

And everyone knows that the Democratic Party is the party of the Socialist.

Not a very good alternative, I must say. If the Repubs are indeed crashing and burning as you suggest, do you REALLY think that the party of socialism is the place people will choose to go?

(oh, and btw, I disagree with both ‘everybodies’, it is a pretty sad way to think, IMO, let alone base all of your views on)

Posted by: Rhinehold at October 12, 2005 5:58 PM
Comment #85298

“The Republican Party wooed and attracted the people of the religious right” to pull a quote from your largely correct article. The religious right took over the republican Party. Those who would establish a theocracy are the ones who are taking away our country and they are using the plutocrats to sdo it. BLC

Posted by: brugini at October 12, 2005 5:59 PM
Comment #85302

Paul, I think you’re spot-on here. Miers has definitely got all of the plutocrats undies in a serious bundle, while the assurances by Dobson (et al) was like unto balm for the evangelical soul.

Posted by: Adrienne at October 12, 2005 6:13 PM
Comment #85319

How sad that you are so blinded by ideological fervor as not to see the multiple camps here.

There are the country club Republicans, big business types, who are in fact plutocrats. They don’t care much about the Supreme Court. They just want free trade and tax cuts.

There are evangelicals. They are populist, they care a lot about Roe v. Wade, prayer in schools, etc., but they likely don’t care much about the integrity of the law as a system, federalism, and other intellectual conservative concerns.

Then there are the movement conservatives who are represented by NR, many right-wing bloggers, the folks at ISI conferences, federalist society lawyers, and other articulate people who somehow make sense of the inchoate longings of both plutocrats and evangelicals, but, in the process, also tend to find various ways to find themselves not fully at home with the base.

Last group are nonideological Republican Party loyalists. They’d probably jump off a bridge if Bush told them to.

Posted by: Roach at October 12, 2005 7:40 PM
Comment #85351

I wonder how many Americans are sickened by Bush’s huckstering his religion on people of other faiths. What would happen I wonder whta peoples reactions would be if a person was nominated to a high government office just because they were Muslims or Jews?

Our foundling Fathers made a wise call when they insisted we sepearate church from state. Bush and his Evangelists come along and want to create an Evangelist Taliban in the US. Forcing your religious beliefs down peoples throats will have consequences for the Evangelists and Bush.

Posted by: Gary Hankin at October 12, 2005 10:36 PM
Comment #85456


We learned from the left. Jam it down there throats from the Bench who gives a damn if they like it or not. We learned it from you , payback is a bitch.


jUST WAIT YOU THINK WE’RE FALLING APART. The base is worked up and when it speaks you will know? We do not want to preside we want real cuts across the board not fake reductions in growth!


Posted by: CAD at October 13, 2005 2:29 AM
Comment #85512

I’m amazed that so many liberals are allowing themselves to be duped by the Mier nomination. It doesn’t have a chance in hell of going through. Even neo con admits she’s unqualified for the job.
So why was she nominated? She was nominated BECAUSE she’s unqualified. She was nominated BECAUSE she can’t be approved. She was nominated to set the table for the nomination of John Ashcroft who, despite his facist leanings, IS qualified for the job.
Fellow liberals, be careful what you wish for (or against as the case may be) you just might get it.

Posted by: THOM HOUTS at October 13, 2005 6:17 AM
Comment #85605

Does anyone here really think there are two parties running this country? Special interests get whatever they want,and you pinheads just keep gabbing along, liberals this consvs this. Keep doing Washington a favor, and keep the status qu going ,but act like you know whats going on

Posted by: alan at October 13, 2005 12:05 PM
Comment #85619
And everyone knows that the Democratic Party is the party of the Socialist.

No, Rhinehold. That would actually be the Socialist Party.

Feel free to ask me for help on politics any time, Rhinehold. Remember, there are no stupid questions. Glad I could help.

Posted by: American Pundit at October 13, 2005 1:10 PM
Comment #85640

AMERICA = Red, Green and Blue, Conservative, Liberal…

I believe that America is at a critical cross road, we can either unite as a PEOPLE or, self destruct into a nation of conflicting factions, composed largely of red, green, blue, right, left, necon, liberal, conservative and so on, with no common interests or beliefs.

We the PEOPLE of the United States of AMERICA continue do nothing to resolve these conflicts; we will continue our dissent towards RULE by big business and the rich for their own advantage. This is evident by our current administration where the poor have gotten poorer, middle and working classes are being squeezed out of existence and rich and powerful businesses have come to power.

We the PEOPLE of the United States of AMERICA continue to do nothing to eradicate the corruption of our elected officials and stop the elimination of the middle and working class AMERICANS, by the policies of the so-called “conservatives”. Then we the PEOPLE can expect to see acceleration in the decline of living conditions among all AMERICANS and continued political DISTRATIONS from OUR real vulnerabilities, and little demand to change anything.

We the PEOPLE are to get on with the difficult business of protecting ALL AMERICANS’ whether they be poor, middle, working class or rich, we must embrace our differences and laid them to rest for good of ALL AMERICANS. Because if we the PEOPLE fail to do so, then we as AMERICANS may be living in the last days and times of a once great nation called AMERICA.

Posted by: Lucinda Kelley at October 13, 2005 3:17 PM
Comment #85754

John Ashcroft, I never thought of that. Thanks Thom for ruining my sleep for the next 20-30 years. The fringe really is in control of this country.

This is a bit off topic but I often wonder what each party actually stands for. Here are a couple of links to the 2004 party platforms. On page 47 of the republican platform, it actually mentions a line-item veto. very interesting.



I think everybody should take some time and read or re-read these documents because I feel that they will shed some light on reality vs. propoganda.

Nowhere in the democratic platform do I see the words socialist and nowhere in the republican platform do I see the words 9-11…oh wait (pages 2,5,6,13,15,17,etc…..)

Right now I see the democratic platform as the minority anti-Bush party and the republican platform as the majority Fear Uncertainty and Doubt (FUD) flag wrapped around their bible party of big business.

What a choice.

I would really like to see anybody from either party direct some attention to what I believe are the two most important problems we face as a nation. The crushing deficit and outsourcing of jobs (blue and white collar).


Posted by: reed at October 14, 2005 1:48 AM
Comment #85794

No matter what the Republican party yaps about they are the party of big business. I pretty much agree with the artlicle 100% There has been a party of the people and a party of rich people since the beginnings of this country and so it will continue. I can deal with them.

What makes me insane is the religious right. I believe they have not only hijacked politics they have hijacked spirituality. I abhor almost catagorically everything they believe in. They are enough to make you want to throw out the concept of creator. These fanatics believe carbon dating is inaccurate, the space program is a ruse, it never happened. Geology, cellular biology is inaccurate, evolution is not true. No amount of education will prove to them their error. They simply say I believe. In the field I come from that is called delusional. They are dangerous and vicious.

To use some of their own imagery, they have made a deal with the devil. Now I hope they drown in it.

Last thought. Oh please don’t let John Ashcroft be in the wings. This poor, poor country.

Posted by: Cassandra Cartwright at October 14, 2005 10:52 AM
Comment #94980

The very existence of God was recognized by our founders in the “Declaration of Independence”
the fact those same writers left theocracy out of the constitution was to avoid what is happening today in other theocracies. it is misguided to suggest that God played no part in our government, our judicial system or the every day lives of our forefathers. good government must have a baseline of moral standards by which to govern. what are ours and where did they come from? why are you asked to swear to God when presidents take an oath of office or prepare to bear testimony. there is something very wrong in a society that is unwilling to say who they are, what they believe in and stand for. i fear we are destined to fall as a nation because we are afraid to stand for anything that embraces a core belief in God, and the standards of life that are delineated in the Old Testament. I would strongly support a new political party that so states a core value of biblical origin, but not sectarian. it is time, way past time, for the pendulum to swing back.
In the meantime i will continue an ardent search for a theocrat that will help us to return to a common sense domestic government with God based domestic and international policy.

chris wright
a God follower

Posted by: c. wright at November 22, 2005 8:54 PM
Comment #196159

Market in Beijing, capital of China
Dear Sirs,
I want to setting up representative office for your company in Beijing, capital of China promoting your business. You know China is a quite biggest country. There are 96billion square kilometers and over 800 cities. Any city is as big as a small country. Occupy Chinese market is equal occupy Asia market, that is meaning you make big effort get profit from more small country that is same as working on Chinese market profit. If you cannot decide yet, would you like transferring my opinion, email address and phone number to your headquarter?
According to American 《fortune》magazine report in May16, 2005: American corporations have got profit USD1.9billion since 1999 from Chinese market, till 2003 it has increased to USD4.4billion. And this figure will be kept increasing.
As report, Chinese luxurious market is made of Chinese population from 10million to 13million. Main part is from entrepreneurs and other part is young who work for multinational from east big cities of China. Their purchase habit is as same as Japanese.
I am not advice but only suggestion because of Chinese purchase volume is big. Let me give you the example. You know the Luxurious limousine “Mulliner728”, it is cost USD1,500,000 in China. Only tax in China can purchase other Benz S350. “Mulliner” come to China since 2002. Estimating sale 10 sets, till Sept. Till last year, “Mulliner” have set up 4 monopolistic stores and sold 85 sets Mulliner Luxurious limousine in China. And last week watches exhibition in Beijing sale more Luxurious watches, each watches price are over USD1,000,000. As report I have got recently, there are over 1.6billion Chinese people purchase Luxurious products. Beijing One store has sold out 800kg gold products within one day before Christmas. Chinese purchase power is unprecedented.
Chinese are researching keep value products. According over 10-year work in this market and knowing public, I do believe it is the time enters this market for your product. According to Judean businessman rule 80/20. It is 80% poor and 20% richer. China has enough 20% richer can support luxurious market now. So I said it is time for your enter this market.
What is my meaning that China has biggest market potential, and foreign market is opening. It is quite necessary setting up representative in Beijing, capital of China Now. the more earlier you coming, the more advantage you occupy in this market. Description of Chinese plutocrat(the richest persons),
About Chinese plutocrats, there are more description in China, it is unable to decide which is right. Recently, I red American magazine from 《times》, it seems correctly. Detail as followed:
Male plutocrat,
Dress: Made in China or Italy famous brand Western-style clothes (leave brand label on wristband) and mobile leather cover, leather vanity etc Luxury fittings.
Relax method: Play golf and skiing in USD10thousands/year tax club. And they luxury gambled in Las Vegas and other places.
Diet: Each meal price is above USD600. dish menu is including shark fins and abalones etc. luxury seafood.
Cocktail time: Drinking Scotland royal whiskey etc.
reading book: Jack Welch 《Straight from the Gut》and William (Bill) H. Gates autobiography.
Female plutocrat:
Dress: LV and Chanel fashionable dress, Fendi handbag, golden necklace, bright red nail paints and newest style Nokia mobile.
Relax method: Shopping, hot spring to recuperate, take a holiday in Thailand and Australia.
Diet: algae and sea-fog products that benefit for skin beauty.
Cocktail time: Cappuccino drink mixture by Green tea and coffee; and cucumber juice.
reading book: John Gray《Men are from Mars》,《Women are from Venus》; indoor decorate design, law book concerning divorce and solatium.
《times》said: Chinese plutocrat like driving Benz with lucky license plate and black color ROLLS-ROYCE. Smoking with Dunhill brand and Cuba cigar; Night life is staying KTV room; prefer long hair pets, pug, Mecklenburg-Vorpommern stone-dog and Beijing dog; They are used to go abroad shopping as mad as a hatter and look in their study abroad children.
You know what I am saying, China is quite good market right now that deserve work on, is it?
Ok, just write here, hoping hear from you soon.
Tel: 8610-63964311

Posted by: nancy at November 22, 2006 3:30 AM
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